Capaldi can't be The Doctor???

[Captaindemotion]

I think I remember RTD saying that they didn't want Eccleston's Manc accent followed by a Scottish one, as if they were doing a tour of the regional accents of GB. Which didn't make an awful lot of sense to me - isn't the London-style accent Tennant put on 'regional' too, or is London not a region?

It must also be remembered that there's a different show-runner now - a Scottish one into the bargain - and that Capaldi is a much better known actor than Tennant was when he was cast.

 

[MacLeod]

I think I remember RTD saying that they didn't want Eccleston's Manc accent followed by a Scottish one, as if they were doing a tour of the regional accents of GB. Which didn't make an awful lot of sense to me - isn't the London-style accent Tennant put on 'regional' too, or is London not a region?

It must also be remembered that there's a different show-runner now - a Scottish one into the bargain - and that Capaldi is a much better known actor than Tennant was when he was cast.

As a viewer I'm not seeing an Issue having a Mancunian accent followed by a Scottish one.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I think I remember RTD saying that they didn't want Eccleston's Manc accent followed by a Scottish one, as if they were doing a tour of the regional accents of GB. Which didn't make an awful lot of sense to me - isn't the London-style accent Tennant put on 'regional' too, or is London not a region?

It must also be remembered that there's a different show-runner now - a Scottish one into the bargain - and that Capaldi is a much better known actor than Tennant was when he was cast.

I agree... it is still another region.

My bf is English so I should be able to answer this but I can't.
According to him, the "London accent" is sort of just like the most "proper" accent one could have from the country. His accent sounds much different since he is from Southwest England. Tennant's accent used on the show I believe is technically known as Estuary English.

According to Wikipedia:
Estuary English is a dialect of English widely spoken in South East England, especially along the River Thames and its estuary. Phonetician John C. Wells defines Estuary English as "Standard English spoken with the accent of the south-east of England".[1] The name comes from the area around the Thames, particularly its Estuary. Estuary English can be heard from some people in east London, north Kent, and south Essex. Estuary English shares many features with Cockney, and there is some debate among linguists as to where Cockney speech ends and Estuary English begins.

That said, David Tennant's voice is sexy no matter which accent he uses.

 

[MacLeod]

Remmeber whilst the current show-runner is Scottish the previous one was Welsh.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

This "Capaldi /= The Doctor" nonsense reminds me of thos "Paul McGann is NOT the Doctor, because the TV Movie failed" or whatever it was. Pre-2005 reboot, and I'm sure sometime during and after too - although I admit I wasn't a fan back then.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Remmeber whilst the current show-runner is Scottish the previous one was Welsh.

Yes yes I know.
Also explains why Amy Pond was allowed to use a Scottish accent too.

Eh, I mean I don't care much.

BTW your avatar stopped showing lol. Or you just don't have one?

 

[Christopher]

Can you provide links? Quotes? Where can we read these?

Sure, here you go.

Reaction to his arrival - http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/powerdaleks/detail.shtml

Thanks -- that was interesting. It was really odd to read that letter from the person who saw Troughton's arrival as an encouraging sign that DW would eventually become an adults-only show. What exactly gave him that impression?? But then, the pre-debut article referred to Troughton as a "spooky character actor." Was he known for horror roles, villains, etc. before the Doctor?

 

[Sindatur]

Can you provide links? Quotes? Where can we read these?

Sure, here you go.

Reaction to his arrival - http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/powerdaleks/detail.shtml

Thanks -- that was interesting. It was really odd to read that letter from the person who saw Troughton's arrival as an encouraging sign that DW would eventually become an adults-only show. What exactly gave him that impression?? But then, the pre-debut article referred to Troughton as a "spooky character actor." Was he known for horror roles, villains, etc. before the Doctor?

I thought I read something a while back that said he was known for Mobster-type roles?

 

[Cutter John]

Just ignore people like this. You'll be a lot happier.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Capaldi can't be The Doctor because he smells funny.

But I already like him better than Eccleston, anyway.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Here we are, knew I didn't imagine it:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Doctor#Personality

Tenth Doctor speaks with an Estuary English accent, rather than the Greater Manchester accent (Christopher Eccleston's own accent) that the Ninth Doctor used, the Received Pronunciation of most earlier Doctors, or Tennant's natural Scottish English. David Tennant told SFX magazine in 2006 that Russell T Davies had asked him to drop his natural Scottish accent, because he felt "we'd like to not go for another obvious regional accent, because I suppose they'd done that".[18] In a 23 December interview on BBC Radio 1, Tennant explained that a line had been scripted for the Christmas special explaining that the newly regenerated Doctor had imprinted on Rose Tyler's accent, "like a chick hatching from an egg", but the line was cut from the final episode.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Here we are, knew I didn't imagine it:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Doctor#Personality

Tenth Doctor speaks with an Estuary English accent, rather than the Greater Manchester accent (Christopher Eccleston's own accent) that the Ninth Doctor used, the Received Pronunciation of most earlier Doctors, or Tennant's natural Scottish English. David Tennant told SFX magazine in 2006 that Russell T Davies had asked him to drop his natural Scottish accent, because he felt "we'd like to not go for another obvious regional accent, because I suppose they'd done that".[18] In a 23 December interview on BBC Radio 1, Tennant explained that a line had been scripted for the Christmas special explaining that the newly regenerated Doctor had imprinted on Rose Tyler's accent, "like a chick hatching from an egg", but the line was cut from the final episode.

Yeah I read that on Wikipedia earlier~

 

[Timewalker]

I know that these are silly gripes from people, but the problem is that as usual these are the gripes from those who shout the loudest. I hope that these cries do not drown out those who may watch and enjoy the show, I would hate for a talented actor to be cast aside prematurely.

No complaints from me. I'll take an old guy over Matt Smith (aka Doctor ADHD) every day of the week.

Agreed. I really didn't like Matt Smith's portrayal, and the writing and continuity were horrible.

The age objection is rather shallow, in my opinion. After all, a lot of people on quite a number of SF/Doctor Who sites posted that they'd been so happy to see Tom Baker in the 50th anniversary episode, that they started to cry.

I think I remember RTD saying that they didn't want Eccleston's Manc accent followed by a Scottish one, as if they were doing a tour of the regional accents of GB.

That was a shame. I find David Tennant's natural accent quite pleasing to the ears.

This "Capaldi /= The Doctor" nonsense reminds me of thos "Paul McGann is NOT the Doctor, because the TV Movie failed" or whatever it was. Pre-2005 reboot, and I'm sure sometime during and after too - although I admit I wasn't a fan back then.

Paul McGann was a wonderful Doctor, and should have had an Eighth Doctor series on the strength of his performance in the movie. He nailed the part perfectly. It's not his fault the writing was crap and the plot made no sense.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I know that these are silly gripes from people, but the problem is that as usual these are the gripes from those who shout the loudest. I hope that these cries do not drown out those who may watch and enjoy the show, I would hate for a talented actor to be cast aside prematurely.

No complaints from me. I'll take an old guy over Matt Smith (aka Doctor ADHD) every day of the week.

Agreed. I really didn't like Matt Smith's portrayal, and the writing and continuity were horrible.

The age objection is rather shallow, in my opinion. After all, a lot of people on quite a number of SF/Doctor Who sites posted that they'd been so happy to see Tom Baker in the 50th anniversary episode, that they started to cry.

I think I remember RTD saying that they didn't want Eccleston's Manc accent followed by a Scottish one, as if they were doing a tour of the regional accents of GB.

That was a shame. I find David Tennant's natural accent quite pleasing to the ears.

I agree on Matt Smith, I just wasn't taken with him and I'm not super fond of Moffat's writing style.

I find David Tennant anything quite pleasing to my ears...eyes...errr

 

[Doctorwhovian]

Patrick Troughton certainly did some spooky roles at least after Doctor Who, such as the priest in The Omen and some Hammer film roles.


Regarding the Scottish thing, don't forget Sylvestor McCoy.

 

[BlastHardcheese]

1) To be honest, I think Hartnel himself was too old.

He was in his mid 50s. He wasn't too old, he was just too unhealthy. A lifetime of smoking and alcohol will make anyone look much older than they are and it shortens their lifespan too. Look at how Leonard Nimoy decayed between the original star trek series and the motion picture. Contrast with Patrick Troughton who was 46 when he started. He was already renowned for having an old looking face, but his level of health and energy was far beyond Hartnell's.

He's probably the least popular doctor of the classic series save for Colin Baker, heck maybe even out of all of Doctor Who. There are a lot of fans of Hartnel, but there are a lot of people (especially younger viewers) who really don't like Hartnel with me included (although I love Colin Baker but that's another story).

Whoa, hold on there one second. You're a little too eager to speak for the Doctor Who fanbase in general.

Pertwee was considerably younger really, he was around 40ish. It was mainly the fact that he went grey early and dressed in an elderly manner that aged him. He was alright but not exactly my personal favourite.

No, Pertwee was 50 when he took on the role in 1969. That's just five years younger than Hartnell. He had grey hair because that's what happens to people naturally after 30. I suspect you're just used to actors and people in general dying their hair to avoid looking old.

I don't think Capaldi's age is going to be a barrier at all to accepting him as the Doctor.

 

[Andrew_Kearley]

Estuary English? I believe the correct technical term for Tennant's accent is "mockney wanker". God, he's irritating. The voice, the mugging faces, the verbal tics and catchphrases.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Estuary English? I believe the correct technical term for Tennant's accent is "mockney wanker". God, he's irritating. The voice, the mugging faces, the verbal tics and catchphrases.

Howwwwwwwwwwwww?

Unless you're not a heterosexual woman. Then I get it.

But howwwww? He is BEAUTIFUL.

 

[MacLeod]

Here we are, knew I didn't imagine it:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Doctor#Personality

Tenth Doctor speaks with an Estuary English accent, rather than the Greater Manchester accent (Christopher Eccleston's own accent) that the Ninth Doctor used, the Received Pronunciation of most earlier Doctors, or Tennant's natural Scottish English. David Tennant told SFX magazine in 2006 that Russell T Davies had asked him to drop his natural Scottish accent, because he felt "we'd like to not go for another obvious regional accent, because I suppose they'd done that".[18] In a 23 December interview on BBC Radio 1, Tennant explained that a line had been scripted for the Christmas special explaining that the newly regenerated Doctor had imprinted on Rose Tyler's accent, "like a chick hatching from an egg", but the line was cut from the final episode.

But it was another obvious regional accent. If you're not from that region.

 

[Starkers]

Estuary English? I believe the correct technical term for Tennant's accent is "mockney wanker". God, he's irritating. The voice, the mugging faces, the verbal tics and catchphrases.

He's sorry about all that, he's so sorry...