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Capaldi=cancellation?

The only way I could see Capaldi backfiring a bit is if they lose some of the audience that came in because they found Matt Smith attractive. This would not be substantial enough to cause anyone to even consider cancellation

Some people ditched the show when Smith started because they cast a floppy haired kid, so maybe they'll come back now :p
 
If we're predicting history repeating itself, I predict Doctor Who will get cancelled shortly after Star Trek returns to the telly.

Actually, that's a theory with some weight to it. Doctor Who went off the air during TNG's third season. Enterprise was cancelled when Doctor Who returned. The two franchises are almost like oil and water.
 
Capaldi won't be the end of the show but based on what I saw in the first episode, I sincerely hope he's a one-season Doctor. There's just something missing from his performance.
 
I suppose you can draw comparisons between Berman and JNT. Long running producers with little else to their name, cast the lead three times, but never as successful as the one they inherited.

Still, the movies are back in sync with Doctors - 12 all.
 
If we're predicting history repeating itself, I predict Doctor Who will get cancelled shortly after Star Trek returns to the telly.

Actually, that's a theory with some weight to it. Doctor Who went off the air during TNG's third season. Enterprise was cancelled when Doctor Who returned. The two franchises are almost like oil and water.

They co-existed peacefully during the great Trek/DW truce of 1966-69 though.
 
If we're predicting history repeating itself, I predict Doctor Who will get cancelled shortly after Star Trek returns to the telly.

Actually, that's a theory with some weight to it. Doctor Who went off the air during TNG's third season. Enterprise was cancelled when Doctor Who returned. The two franchises are almost like oil and water.

They co-existed peacefully during the great Trek/DW truce of 1966-69 though.

But did DW have a strong presence in the US at that point? Or ST in the UK?
 
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The UK didn't get TOS until 1969 - It was the off season replacement starting the week after The War Games. When Who did come back it was with shorter - but more practical seasons.

Not sure we got TNG until 1990 either, certainly not on the BBC before that.
 
Actually, that's a theory with some weight to it. Doctor Who went off the air during TNG's third season. Enterprise was cancelled when Doctor Who returned. The two franchises are almost like oil and water.

They co-existed peacefully during the great Trek/DW truce of 1966-69 though.

But DW have a strong presence in the US at that point? Or ST in the UK?

The UK didn't get TOS until 1969 - It was the off season replacement starting the week after The War Games. When Who did come back it was with shorter - but more practical seasons.

Not sure we got TNG until 1990 either, certainly not on the BBC before that.

I'm pretty sure TNG didn't hit UK screens until 1990 as well. I remember the first season airing as I was starting university.
 
baring sport (mainly Snooker!) I think we had a non-stop run of Farpoint to BOBW Part 2. Part 1 or Family would have made more sense.

We had a whole run of TOS between BOBW2 and Family! I think they had to wait for Sky to get later seasons out the way.
 
Not only no, but hells no.

In the 80's ratings were approaching terrible and you had a BBC controller that basically hated Doctor Who.

Different eras.

There are also more interested parties now. I don't mean fans by that, I mean organizations who have a stake in Doctor Who and its existence. If, somehow, Doctor Who wasn't commissioned by BBC 1, there's a good chance that Worldwide would commission it on its own; Worldwide likes flogging Who merchandise, and it flogs better when there's a program to support it. (Where a Worldwide-commissioned Doctor Who would end up in the UK is anyone's guess; if ITV outbid the BBC for the rights to air it, that could be really interesting.)

Hmmm.. Good point.. I am getting tired of Flogging myself.. I wonder if I could get Worldwide to flog for me? LMAO! :guffaw:
 
At this point in the game, it really would take a frak up of significant proportions for Doctor Who to be cancelled, for the creative & financial reasons cited by people above primarily.

It's a brand now. A franchise. It has masses of tie-in media, sponsorship deals, merchandise that sells. It has spin-off series of varying success. Every season the budget seems to go up, or at least it *looks* that way on screen. And it's very much tapped into pop culture zeitgeist right now - you only have to see the fanfare last year in which Capaldi was announced. Prime time, BBC1, huge viewing figures, online alight.

Just because Capaldi is knocking on won't make a blind bit of difference. All the show will lose are people who watched it for the cutey, flirty stuff and, well, given Who isn't exactly the coolest show on earth to young people, that ain't gonna make a massive difference.
 
Let me posit this possible spoiler:

What if this whole latest regeneration was a fake?

We see the origin of the Valeyard, which was mentioned recently by the Great Intelligence--we see Capaldi ask if he is a good man--and Moffet pulls one last big stunt--and we see Matt Smith again at the last.

To go back on a regeneration and cast it out somehow.

That might be where all this is going.

Capaldi is Matt's Armus--the doctor needs to rid himself of that awful Toby Jones he knows he has in him.
 
Capaldi won't be the end of the show but based on what I saw in the first episode, I sincerely hope he's a one-season Doctor. There's just something missing from his performance.

I'm willing to give him more than just one episode. Did Dave Tennant or Matt Smith become the doctor after their first episodes? I know with Tennant, I didn't really become a fan of his until at least Season 3. With Smith, he was ok, but too much like Tennant. I like the fact that this doctor seems to be different, maybe going back to the seriousness of Eccleston's Doctor.
 
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Let me posit this possible spoiler:

What if this whole latest regeneration was a fake?

We see the origin of the Valeyard, which was mentioned recently by the Great Intelligence--we see Capaldi ask if he is a good man--and Moffet pulls one last big stunt--and we see Matt Smith again at the last.

To go back on a regeneration and cast it out somehow.

That might be where all this is going.

Capaldi is Matt's Armus--the doctor needs to rid himself of that awful Toby Jones he knows he has in him.

Not even one zillionth of a chance this would happen. Audiences would run a mile, for a start, and Matt Smith is off on his movie career.
 
Let me posit this possible spoiler:

What if this whole latest regeneration was a fake?

I won't say that it's impossible -- the eighth Doctor faked a regeneration in the DWM strip for reasons -- but based on the leaked scripts I'd say it's unlikely.
 
Matt Smith really grew on me as a favorite. When he 'fessed up that he was the last incarnation of the Doctor, his childlike youthfulness made sense to me from the standpoint that if you knew that when you died you were going to die wouldn't you savor like a young man the life you had left?
Now that this new Doctor seemingly given a new set of regenerations has all new lives ahead of himself it seems to me we will get to see something of a First Doctor 2.0 come out of himself.
I for one, being a fan since the Fourth and picking up on the first Three thanks to my local PBS station running a complete Doctor Who run back in the 90s) Will not miss the earlier versions as much as I will look forward to the newest version and beyond.

I do hope Capaldi's Doctor has no stinkin catch-phrase; although if it were "shit!" or "rottin bastard" that might be cool...
 
Let me posit this possible spoiler:

What if this whole latest regeneration was a fake?

I won't say that it's impossible -- the eighth Doctor faked a regeneration in the DWM strip for reasons -- but based on the leaked scripts I'd say it's unlikely.

But doesn't this sound like what Moffat might do--remember all the thought in how he brought back Sherlock?

This just sounds like him.
 
If Capaldi doesn't work out they will just have this incarnation of the Doctor get killed and regenerate, and give it to a different actor.
 
(In response to publiusr)He already did it with that plot about the Doctor's death two seasons ago. He's not going to do it again. Capaldi is the Doctor now, people need to get used to that.
 
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