Can We Ever Top the First Three Show Captains?

[Paul Weaver]

I will do so, thank you. I just sort of wish there were people headed to Mars, rather than a robot....I know that in real life space travel does terrible things to the human body, which is why I just pretend all sci fi films have already figured out how to prevent that, otherwise I'd be a cynic I don't want to be LOL..

It's not the damage to the human body - we put people through terrible things for little reason - boxing and american football for two, let alone the risk in industries like mining.

The sad fact is sending a robot is far more economical than sending a person
1) One way trip
2) No food on the trip
3) No air needed
4) Limited radiation shielding
5) No PR disaster when it blows up

Every ounce saved in mass is something like $5 million saved

 

[JirinPanthosa]

You can't really compare the damage done by sports to the damage done by trying to remove us from the planet we evolved to survive on and keep us alive for years in an unforgiving shieldless nothingscape.

Whenever anyone asks me if the sports I compete in are dangerous I say 'Nowhere near as dangerous as sitting around and watching TV all day.' Fun and competition thrill are not 'no reason'.

I want to see mankind move forward and become interplanetary too but let's wait until we are better at doing it safely.

 

[locutus101]

It's not the damage to the human body - we put people through terrible things for little reason - boxing and american football for two, let alone the risk in industries like mining.

The sad fact is sending a robot is far more economical than sending a person
1) One way trip
2) No food on the trip
3) No air needed
4) Limited radiation shielding
5) No PR disaster when it blows up

Every ounce saved in mass is something like $5 million saved

This of course, makes a lot of sense.

 

[The Katatonic]

It's not the damage to the human body - we put people through terrible things for little reason - boxing and american football for two, let alone the risk in industries like mining.

The sad fact is sending a robot is far more economical than sending a person
1) One way trip
2) No food on the trip
3) No air needed
4) Limited radiation shielding
5) No PR disaster when it blows up

Every ounce saved in mass is something like $5 million saved

Sigh. You sound like my brother. All dollars and cents and no sentiment. Not that you are wrong. It's just depressing that you are right.

 

[The Katatonic]

You can't really compare the damage done by sports to the damage done by trying to remove us from the planet we evolved to survive on and keep us alive for years in an unforgiving shieldless nothingscape.

Whenever anyone asks me if the sports I compete in are dangerous I say 'Nowhere near as dangerous as sitting around and watching TV all day.' Fun and competition thrill are not 'no reason'.

I want to see mankind move forward and become interplanetary too but let's wait until we are better at doing it safely.

My co-workers and I were talking about the day when the earth could not sustain humans anymore, and we all expressed hope that by that time, we will have colonized SOMEWHERE suitable. We also all said that not a single one of us would qualify as being good enough to be staring a new civilization. And being the peons we are, all of us are resigned to that fact. Not a one of us have anything special enough to justify being saved.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

My co-workers and I were talking about the day when the earth could not sustain humans anymore, and we all expressed hope that by that time, we will have colonized SOMEWHERE suitable. We also all said that not a single one of us would qualify as being good enough to be staring a new civilization. And being the peons we are, all of us are resigned to that fact. Not a one of us have anything special enough to justify being saved.

Nobody is qualified to judge whether we 'deserve' to survive. I would guess it'd be based on some measure of physical fitness, fertility, and possession of useful skills. But it'd be a practical judgment, not a moral one.

But I wouldn't count out human selfishness just yet. We may find a better way to game climate yet and keep Earth livable.

 

[The Katatonic]

Nobody is qualified to judge whether we 'deserve' to survive. I would guess it'd be based on some measure of physical fitness, fertility, and possession of useful skills. But it'd be a practical judgment, not a moral one.

But I wouldn't count out human selfishness just yet. We may find a better way to game climate yet and keep Earth livable.

At the risk of sounding cynical, and I HATE the cynical side of me...earth would be saved just enough as a slave colony for those of us not gifted or have enough skills to deserve transport to the new world...the entire planet would be turned into Hell's Kitchen or 7 Dials, while the elite piss it all away somewhere else... And I am forever grateful that I don't have children and will be long dead when it happens. But, that is the cynical, dark side of me.....normally I am much more hopeful and upbeat.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Let's inject some Trekkian optimism into this....Eventually we'd be visited by a utopian starfaring race...who'd decide not to get involved because of their most important directive....Yeah, that's not helping....

 

[locutus101]

Let's inject some Trekkian optimism into this....Eventually we'd be visited by a utopian starfaring race...who'd decide not to get involved because of their most important directive....Yeah, that's not helping....

That's more optimistic than say... war of the worlds.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Let's inject some Trekkian optimism into this....Eventually we'd be visited by a utopian starfaring race...who'd decide not to get involved because of their most important directive....Yeah, that's not helping....

Ok let's go for JMS

"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu, Einstein, Morobuto, Buddy Holly, Aristophanes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars."

 

[locutus101]

Ok let's go for JMS

"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu, Einstein, Morobuto, Buddy Holly, Aristophanes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars."

If it is in several billion years, as is generally expected, it's very likely that our species will have gone extinct long before that. Species rarely last more than five hundred million years even under exceptional conditions of stability.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Styrofoam will be our legacy.

 

[locutus101]

Styrofoam will be our legacy.

Yes, it really seems like it won't decay, at least not for a long time.