Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATIONS?
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Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
Scotty was twice the engineer Laforge is. Scotty commanded way more than reading rainbow did. Back in the day when engineers weren't pussies hiding out in the halo deck. In the TOS, Spock was the answer man and Scotty applied Spocks theories and made them work, he also came up with some good stuff himself. In TNG data's the answer guy and where's Geordi? Either captured, or getting dumped by some chick from the lower ranks or one that is a halogram. The one time Geordi was in command was before he was chief engineer and he almost screwed that up and let the chief engineer at the time bully him around. I don't care if Scotty arrived and caused a warp core breach, Geordi was selfish and bad. But in all fairness Geordi did come around in the end. Levar Burton was great in the role of Geordi, but all this bashing of Scotty I just don't get. It's blasphemy. There would be no Enterprise-D if it weren't for the original Enterprise, and I don't mean the NX-01.
Scotty was twice the engineer Laforge is. Scotty commanded way more than reading rainbow did. Back in the day when engineers weren't pussies hiding out in the halo deck. In the TOS, Spock was the answer man and Scotty applied Spocks theories and made them work, he also came up with some good stuff himself. In TNG data's the answer guy and where's Geordi? Either captured, or getting dumped by some chick from the lower ranks or one that is a halogram. The one time Geordi was in command was before he was chief engineer and he almost screwed that up and let the chief engineer at the time bully him around. I don't care if Scotty arrived and caused a warp core breach, Geordi was selfish and bad. But in all fairness Geordi did come around in the end. Levar Burton was great in the role of Geordi, but all this bashing of Scotty I just don't get. It's blasphemy. There would be no Enterprise-D if it weren't for the original Enterprise, and I don't mean the NX-01.
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That's just sad. My 8-year-old knows who Franklin was.
Anywho, there wasn't any Scotty bashing going on. They were in the middle of a mission, and were trying to do thier work. After Scotty had been on the ship for five minutes, he showed that he was unfamiliar with technology that was 75 years more advanced than anything he had ever seen. Well, who wouldn't be? Picard offered for Scotty to start reading some technical journals to start aquainting himself with modern technology, but he didn't want anything to do with it.
Geordi did try to bend over backward for Scotty, but Scotty had the holier than thou attitude.
reverie said:
That's okay, I work with a girl (30 years old) who really doesn't know who Benjamin Franklin is. She knows he's on money, and assumes he was a president, but that's it.
That's just sad. My 8-year-old knows who Franklin was.
Anywho, there wasn't any Scotty bashing going on. They were in the middle of a mission, and were trying to do thier work. After Scotty had been on the ship for five minutes, he showed that he was unfamiliar with technology that was 75 years more advanced than anything he had ever seen. Well, who wouldn't be? Picard offered for Scotty to start reading some technical journals to start aquainting himself with modern technology, but he didn't want anything to do with it.
Geordi did try to bend over backward for Scotty, but Scotty had the holier than thou attitude.
That sounds like a nice explanation, I really like it!
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
I guess you're forgetting Space Station Montgomery (where starships get repaired). Who do you think that was named after?
I guess you're forgetting Space Station Montgomery (where starships get repaired). Who do you think that was named after?
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
Well obviously the production reason why theu named the station that is after Scotty but there's no evidence in the Trek U. that's who they named it after.
Well obviously the production reason why theu named the station that is after Scotty but there's no evidence in the Trek U. that's who they named it after.
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
Here's a couple scenes I dreamed up that could fit in "Relics", just for fun.
Scotty: I know I've seen you before!
Worf: You're a senile old fool. I've never met you.
As the angry Scotty walks away, Worf sticks his foot out and sends the old man sprawling. Worf laughs.
Later...
Scotty: Damn it, I SWEAR I've seen you before!
O'Brien: You're imagining things you feeble-minded old man.
O'Brien shoves the old man aside as he proceeds to Transporter Room #3.
Can anyone pick up on what the hell I'm talking about?
Robert
Here's a couple scenes I dreamed up that could fit in "Relics", just for fun.
Scotty: I know I've seen you before!
Worf: You're a senile old fool. I've never met you.
As the angry Scotty walks away, Worf sticks his foot out and sends the old man sprawling. Worf laughs.
Later...
Scotty: Damn it, I SWEAR I've seen you before!
O'Brien: You're imagining things you feeble-minded old man.
O'Brien shoves the old man aside as he proceeds to Transporter Room #3.
Can anyone pick up on what the hell I'm talking about?
Robert
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
Of course, simple, Kirk & McCoys' trial for assasinating the Klingon Chancellor (Gorkon).
Of course, simple, Kirk & McCoys' trial for assasinating the Klingon Chancellor (Gorkon).
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
Yep. Worf and O'brien were in the bar where Scotty was, maybe even at the next table. What's more O'Brien was in the Kirk 'chewing-out' lineup with Scotty.
I forget what happened to Worf during the bar fight.
Of course during "Relics" Worf and O'Brien wouldn't yet know that Scotty could've seen them before.
Robert
Yep. Worf and O'brien were in the bar where Scotty was, maybe even at the next table. What's more O'Brien was in the Kirk 'chewing-out' lineup with Scotty.
I forget what happened to Worf during the bar fight.
Of course during "Relics" Worf and O'Brien wouldn't yet know that Scotty could've seen them before.
Robert
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
Imagine if Patton emerged today and started pressing buttons in the pentagon during a crisis. everyone would know who he was, and everyone would be annoyed. Scotti admitted to his little scam of telling Kirk that repairs or whatever would need more time then they actually did, so that he would look like a magician when they were completed ahead of schedual. wow what a legend.
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"What is the name of your vessel?"
Riker: "The lollipop. She's a good ship."
Imagine if Patton emerged today and started pressing buttons in the pentagon during a crisis. everyone would know who he was, and everyone would be annoyed. Scotti admitted to his little scam of telling Kirk that repairs or whatever would need more time then they actually did, so that he would look like a magician when they were completed ahead of schedual. wow what a legend.
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"What is the name of your vessel?"
Riker: "The lollipop. She's a good ship."
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
James Doohan's lack of love for Shatner aside, Scotty believes in Kirk. He's just had a kind of intense experience, and he's being told he's in the future. At first it seems impossible. So he gets a little sarcastic, shall we say.
James Doohan's lack of love for Shatner aside, Scotty believes in Kirk. He's just had a kind of intense experience, and he's being told he's in the future. At first it seems impossible. So he gets a little sarcastic, shall we say.
Re: Can "Relics" be reconciled with events in ST: GENERATION
And boy does that show - nearly everything that comes out of Checkov's mouth sounds exactly like McCoy - "I was never that young" in particular. And his easy familiarity with Kirk which is very McCoy and not very Checkov at all. Then to top it off Checkov, who, as far as we know, has no particular medical knowledge, establishes himself as Doctor.
And boy does that show - nearly everything that comes out of Checkov's mouth sounds exactly like McCoy - "I was never that young" in particular. And his easy familiarity with Kirk which is very McCoy and not very Checkov at all. Then to top it off Checkov, who, as far as we know, has no particular medical knowledge, establishes himself as Doctor.
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