Call the DTI

[Prax]

I know what people say about it being this alternate timeline that is also parallel reality, and that both realities are happening side by side.

I just never got that impression from the movie. I was certain it was a time travel story. I haven't seen it in many years.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I know what people say about it being this alternate timeline that is also parallel reality, and that both realities are happening side by side.

I just never got that impression from the movie. I was certain it was a time travel story. I haven't seen it in many years.

The dialog in the film and the behind the scenes commentary say so. Not sure how much more one needs.

 

[Kor]

Yes, it is just an alternate reality as said in dialog. The Prime timeline continues in a separate quantum reality. NuTrek does not replace anything, it just exists alongside it. And it's totally fine to enjoy both.

Kor

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

DTI seems focused on when people actually travel to the past. Like did they alter history? Were they always going to travel back?

Apparently, they hate it when it turns out people were meant to go back and do something. Makes their job way more difficult. Do I leave it alone or change it?

 

[Prax]

Apparently, they hate it when it turns out people were meant to go back and do something. Makes their job way more difficult. Do I leave it alone or change it?

By difficult do you mean it takes more time?

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

By difficult do you mean it takes more time?

Also more brain cells to work out the implications of doing or not doing anything.

 

[Kor]

By difficult do you mean it takes more time?

"Is that a joke?" - Dulmur

Kor

 

[Prax]

"Because we don't like jokes."

 

[Mojochi]

How the hell is this (McCoy'd kidney Pills) not interfering with the timeline?

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/call-the-dti.286542/page-3 Though considering the circumstances, maybe they'll let this one slide.

Yeah, well, if they're going to overlook Scotty's transparent aluminum gambit, I guess Bones isn't any more over the line, or the whole crew, for that matter, for thieving from a nuclear wessel lol

But Bone's move, unlike everyone else's wasn't mission critical

I'm curious. Has anyone ever pegged down all of the 17 different infractions that the DTI attributes to Kirk in DS9's Trials & Tribble-ations?

 

[Prax]

He only had 3 in TOS.

One was an accident (Tomorrow is Yesterday)and the "Temporal Tampering" was repaired.

One was through the Guardian of Forever (City on The Edge...)and the tampering was extreme! It was repaired, though.

The last trip(Assignment Earth) Kirk was following orders. He DID interfere, but his contact was very limited.

There's also one more(All our Yesterdays) but I really wouldn't count that.

I'm not too familiar with the Animated series but I know they return to the Guardian. This one is a certifiable 'Predestination Paradox' and cannot be counted.

Lastly, there is Star Trek IV. This one definitely counts.

So at the most, 4 violations. No more than Picard, Sisko, or Janeway(that we are aware of)

 

[somebuddyX]

I know what people say about it being this alternate timeline that is also parallel reality, and that both realities are happening side by side.

I just never got that impression from the movie. I was certain it was a time travel story. I haven't seen it in many years.

I had the same reaction when I saw the film. I thought the new timeline had erased the old one and was pretty bummed about it, since that's how time travel had worked in most Trek I'd seen. I'm glad it wasn't the case.

 

[somebuddyX]

He only had 3 in TOS.

One was an accident (Tomorrow is Yesterday)and the "Temporal Tampering" was repaired.

One was through the Guardian of Forever (City on The Edge...)and the tampering was extreme! It was repaired, though.

The last trip(Assignment Earth) Kirk was following orders. He DID interfere, but his contact was very limited.

There's also one more(All our Yesterdays) but I really wouldn't count that.

I'm not too familiar with the Animated series but I know they return to the Guardian. This one is a certifiable 'Predestination Paradox' and cannot be counted.

Lastly, there is Star Trek IV. This one definitely counts.

So at the most, 4 violations. No more than Picard, Sisko, or Janeway(that we are aware of)

I guess it depends on what a "temporal violation" is but if it's just unauthorised time travel then maybe The Naked Time counts too. I wonder, would Generations count? I guess Kirk didn't really time travel then but Picard definitely did, but would that be a "violation"?

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I'm sure they take into consideration the intentions of the traveler.

Got another one for them: http://babylonbee.com/news/man-from-year-2249-asks-god-for-time-traveling-mercies/

 

[Prax]

You're right, a temporal violation can't simply mean any experience of time travel. They are mostly accidental. It would have to depend on the actions that occurred and how or if they effect the timeline.

 

[Vandervecken]

I'm pretty sure they'd at least want to know about the Vorgons from Captain's Holiday.

 

[Prax]

The Vorgon's were one of the factions in the Temporal Cold War. That falls under the purview of Crewman Daniels and the TimeCops.

DTI have heard rumors about the TCW, but the Time cops try to keep them out of the loop.

 

[The Wormhole]

Has anyone ever pegged down all of the 17 different infractions that the DTI attributes to Kirk in DS9's Trials & Tribble-ations?

IIRC, even if you combine all the temporal infractions he had in the show, movies, and even novels there's still few unaccounted for.

The Vorgon's were one of the factions in the Temporal Cold War.

How do you figure? The only factions in the TCW we know of are:
-The Temporal Agents (Mr. Daniels's people)
-Future Guy and the Suliban
-The Alien Nazis

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Well, yeah, we don't know for sure that the Vorgons were part of the TCW, but it's still very likely that they were.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm not sure I'd go that far. We know they had time travel ability, but aside from an interest in the Tox Uthat we know nothing of their goals, interests, or agenda.

 

[Kor]

That would be retroactive continuity.

Kor