Burton/Keaton Batman movie
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I remember that now that you mention it.
My opinion is that Batman Forever is just as horrible but I do like seeing Tommy Lee Jones desperately trying to keep pace with Jim Carrey rather than do his own thing. I suspect he was thinking "What the hell am I supposed to be doing?" for the entire shoot.
Batman Forever... This movie was pretty big when it came out and I liked it at the time. The Blu-ray documentary said that it was heavily marketed but what did it for me was having Jim Carrey as the Riddler. He was the biggest star at the time, having just come off of Ace Ventura, The Mask and Dumb & Dumber, and combining his star power with Batman made the movie that much more spectacular. I feel a lot differently now though.
Batman & Robin... I saw the movie on opening day and it was the first time I heard people laughing at a movie instead of with it.
Batman & Robin... I saw the movie on opening day and it was the first time I heard people laughing at a movie instead of with it.
You didn't see The Final Frontier in the theatre, eh?
^ I did but I don't remember anyone laughing at the movie.
Oddly enough, I saw TFF again today and aside from Shatner showing off a little too much, my opinion of the movie is actually up a bit, but that's the subject of another thread.
Oddly enough, I saw TFF again today and aside from Shatner showing off a little too much, my opinion of the movie is actually up a bit, but that's the subject of another thread.
Or Highlander 2?
Or The Howling 3: The Marsupials?
(Yes, I paid money to see those. I regret nothing.)
The Howling 3 played in theaters??
I'm sure there are many threads, but I specifically remember Spock asking Kirk why he was climbing the mountain and people yelling "because it's there" and then everyone laughing when that was the actual line. I also remember the laughs at Uhura's naked dance and at the jet boots in the turbolift and the groans and thrown popcorn when Scotty banged his head.
Highlander 2. Ugh. Saw that opening night because the trailers looked interesting. Hadn't seen the first one so I decided to rent the VHS on my way home from work that day, watch it during dinner and then catch the 9PM show of Highlander 2. Wow. The people who'd seen the earlier one and had vague memories of the first one were annoyed with no. 2--imagine having watched the first one just before. Most nonsensical movie experience of my life (except for movies intended to be nonsense). Hard to believe they made more (I never watched any of them).
Considering that's almost Kirk's first line in the movie, it sounds like the audience went in with intention to mock. Possibly this viewing was years after the original release?
The thing that I think *almost* keeps Batman Forever grounded is that it's based on an original Tim Burton concept, Tim Burton was still a producer on the movie (mostly hands-of in the end, it has to be said), and there are still *some* stylistic echoes between it and the previous two movies, especially with the second one.
Sure, it's wackier. But it's a kind of ''controlled'' wacky. It's got a lot more in common with Batman Returns than most people are probably willing to admit. Whenever I've rewatched it, I've often found myself being able to visualise how Tim Burton would've handled the exact same material.
Batman & Robin on the other hand was made entirely out of whole cloth by Schumacher and co, and is therefore in a completely different stratosphere even compared to Batman Forever.
I guess what I'm saying is that Batman Forver has still got some residual Tim Burton going on, whereas Batman & Robin has shed almost every vestige of the Burton movies completely, and cranked the wackiness up to eleven to compensate... it feels like it doesn't even belong in the same series as the three previous movies.
Sure, it's wackier. But it's a kind of ''controlled'' wacky. It's got a lot more in common with Batman Returns than most people are probably willing to admit. Whenever I've rewatched it, I've often found myself being able to visualise how Tim Burton would've handled the exact same material.
Batman & Robin on the other hand was made entirely out of whole cloth by Schumacher and co, and is therefore in a completely different stratosphere even compared to Batman Forever.
I guess what I'm saying is that Batman Forver has still got some residual Tim Burton going on, whereas Batman & Robin has shed almost every vestige of the Burton movies completely, and cranked the wackiness up to eleven to compensate... it feels like it doesn't even belong in the same series as the three previous movies.
I get what your saying. It like Snyder and Nolan with superman
Man of steel was as grounded as you can get with superman
Batman vs superman is synders vision completely
Man of steel was as grounded as you can get with superman
Batman vs superman is synders vision completely
Batman & Robin inherits a couple of actors from the earlier movies, but its overtly comedic tone is such that it's lost nearly all other connections to them. Batman Forever just kinda ''feels'' more in tune with the two Tim Burton movies to me, especially with the stylings of Batman Returns, even though it *does* do a couple things differently to how I imagine Burton would've done them.
I don't know how closely Batman vs Superman is going to be to Man of Steel. It might surprise us.
I don't know how closely Batman vs Superman is going to be to Man of Steel. It might surprise us.
It wasn't even a Trek crowd--I think I saw it Monday evening following the initial evening. Montreal audiences are tough.
I saw it in a rundown theater in Times Square, pre-Guiliani.
The audience, only a few of whom were actually watching the movie, had no idea what to make of it.
"What the fuck is this shit?"
Yeah Forever is a lot less over the top than Batman and Robin, but it's also lacking any of the slightly twisted, off kilter weirdness that made the Burton movies so cool and memorable.
Instead everything suddenly feels really lightweight and superficial, with a couple of incredibly cheesy and ridiculous villains running around that you can't take remotely seriously.
A Burton directed Batman Forever would have been very cool to see, but I don't think Schumacher's version comes even close to being it.
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How involved with MoS was Nolan? I know he had a producer credit, but I don't really remember hearing much about him being personally involved during production.
These idiots would have had a field day over all of the toys of the 50's, 60's, and (early) 70's, all of which were inspired by the revival in success of the Universal Pictures Monsters™ movie franchises during those decades and featured things like Dracula, Wolfman, Mummy, & Frankenstein dolls, model kits, model cars, and a whole lot of other scary things inspired by the classic Universal (and Hammer) horror series. What was said by one poster in a recent article about North American kids not being like what they were in previous eras hangs true, and all because of these parents and their bullshit about kids 'getting nightmares.
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