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Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel - First Time Viewer

Beneath You

That was a pretty interesting episode. There was more groundwork for the whole heallmouth reopening and the “from beneath you it devours” ominous line. I thought the best scenes in this episode was the end with Buffy realizing Spike got his soul back. Still hard to root for him because of the whole “scene” but it made me sit up and pay attention.

The stuff with the demon ex-boyfriend was still season 1-ish to me. Did enjoy the scene at the Bronx that makes people think season 6 was one big love square. :lol:
 
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I just downloaded a free sample of the first collection of the Buffy reboot comic, and it turns out it gives me the whole first issue and first couple pages of #2.
Oh and I find the cover of #1 kind of funny given a recent conversation in this thread. It shows Buffy holding smart phone in one hand, and a stake in the other in front of Sunnydale High.

Oh, I finally remembered something I've been meaning to ask since this thread started. Do they ever actually call Buffy & Co. the Scooby Gang in the show itself? I always see them being called that, but I don't remember the term ever actually being used in the show itself.
 
I just downloaded a free sample of the first collection of the Buffy reboot comic, and it turns out it gives me the whole first issue and first couple pages of #2.
Oh and I find the cover of #1 kind of funny given a recent conversation in this thread. It shows Buffy holding smart phone in one hand, and a stake in the other in front of Sunnydale High.

Oh, I finally remembered something I've been meaning to ask since this thread started. Do they ever actually call Buffy & Co. the Scooby Gang in the show itself? I always see them being called that, but I don't remember the term ever actually being used in the show itself.
Yes a few times. I don't think they do it until late season 2 or season 3 though. I was actually wondering that myself and then I heard it and was like, so that's how they got their name.
 
I just downloaded a free sample of the first collection of the Buffy reboot comic, and it turns out it gives me the whole first issue and first couple pages of #2.
Oh and I find the cover of #1 kind of funny given a recent conversation in this thread. It shows Buffy holding smart phone in one hand, and a stake in the other in front of Sunnydale High.

Oh, I finally remembered something I've been meaning to ask since this thread started. Do they ever actually call Buffy & Co. the Scooby Gang in the show itself? I always see them being called that, but I don't remember the term ever actually being used in the show itself.

Yes a few times. I don't think they do it until late season 2 or season 3 though. I was actually wondering that myself and then I heard it and was like, so that's how they got their name.

If I remember correctly, it was Xander who first called it the Scooby Gang. It was while he was breaking and entering with Cordy in What's My Line? all the way back in Season 2.
 
Same Time, Same Place

This episode was kind of heart breaking. Willow came back but put a spell on herself because she was afraid of what her friends would think of her. I really like that Willow is struggling with this and things aren't the same as they were. Yeah, it wasn't really Willow when she turned, but she did cause a lot of damage and tried to destroy the world. It will take a lot for people to forgive her. In a way, watching Willow in this episode reminded me of watch Zhaan in Farscape. Zhaan comes across as a peaceful being, dedicated to her goddess, but that was after she murdered someone. Heck, in this episode Willow even references her "Goddess" which was what made me think about this comparison. Zhaan struggled with her reconciliation, I think that's the Journey Willow is on this season. I just don't want Willow to die, even though Zhaan, after finally making peace sacrificed herself to save others.

The monster was pretty disgusting, and I kinda laughed when he was called Gnarl, short for Gnarly. Describes him to a tee. Also, Anya was great in this episode. I especially loved her frustrations over the carpet. :lol:

Rene (Arrow) and Brad (Home Improvement) are in this next episode. Rick Gonzalez has been acting for that long ha? That was a surprise.
 
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Just finished up the first reboot issue, and it was really good.
Interesting new changes:
Willow is already out, with a girlfriend, and is alot more fashionable than she was in the early seasons of the show. They already appear to be setting Willow up to become a witch.
Drusilla and Spike are our big bads already, apparently jumping right over the Master.
Xander was pretty funny.
We also see Willow, and Xander training in the library, so it looks like they might get in on a bit more of the ass kicking.
Honestly, I think at this point I might just go with this for my Buffy comics fix, and hold off on the post-finale comics for a while.
The story and writing were really good, it definitely felt like Buffy. The art was good too, it was fairly cartoony, but the characters were still recognizeable.
 
I'm not sure I'm going to talk about every episode mainly because I know you guys are going by memory and I am wrapping up the series. With that said, Selfless was quite the surprising episode. I love Anya, and this episode was like the Anya origin story (Kinda like what Spike had in Season 5). I was surprised they put in a musical number but Caulfield killed it, as she usually does. I also loved Buffy's talk about the Slayer being the Law and she had to kill Angel even though I think Buffy overreacted here. It's a very narrow minded view for a place that has so many demons and darkness.
 
I'm not sure I'm going to talk about every episode mainly because I know you guys are going by memory and I am wrapping up the series. With that said, Selfless was quite the surprising episode. I love Anya, and this episode was like the Anya origin story (Kinda like what Spike had in Season 5). I was surprised they put in a musical number but Caulfield killed it, as she usually does. I also loved Buffy's talk about the Slayer being the Law and she had to kill Angel even though I think Buffy overreacted here. It's a very narrow minded view for a place that has so many demons and darkness.

Selfless was the first episode of television Drew Goddard ever wrote, and it's ambitious as fuck. As I said before, he's the Buffyverse's Ronald D. Moore. A non-professional writer that sent a spec script to his favorite show on a whim and got his dream job.

The story behind this episode is that everyone at the Mutant Enemy offices was extremely busy. They knew Gellar was quitting the show and Buffy was ending. Tim Minear and Joss Whedon were frantically trying to keep Firefly afloat. And Minear, Whedon and a via-telephone David Greenwalt were trying to help first time showrunner Jeffrey Bell helm what at the time they thought might be Angel's final season (and this was after original Angel: Season 4 showrunner David Simkins was let go after the first few episodes due to "creative differences").

While everyone was busy trying to keep all three shows from collapsing, newbie Drew Goddard was sitting all alone in the writers room. Whedon asked him what he'd like to write. Goddard told him an episode about Anya. When Goddard later gave Whedon his finished script he told him there was a flashback to the musical in it. He wanted to know if he could write another song. Whedon scoffed at that, since he was busy as fuck as it was. The very next day Whedon handed Goddard some papers and said, "Here's your song."
 
Well the musical was the high point of her humanity so that really helped bringing Anya full circle at the end. She deserves better though.

So Him is a rip off of the season 2 episode where Xander has women all over him and they even flashback to that episode. I think this is the first stinker I have in season 7 so far. I’m actually starting to get annoyed with Dawn, the “pushy queen of slut town."
 
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Is anyone reading the Boom comics? It reboots the series to take place in the 2010s and starts going in a different direction quickly. Drusilla is the Big Bad as the Mistress, Anya appears in the first issue, Willow is already out and has a girlfriend, Robin Wood is an older student at Sunnydale and he and Buffy are starting to have something of a relationship,
Xander was bit by Drusilla and is a vampire now. Although he's still somewhere between life and death, so Giles believes he can be saved using a magical McGuffin that keeps his soul from leaving.

It's really worth reading, they have an Angel series too that takes place before he went to Sunnydale.
 
Well the musical was the high point of her humanity so that really helped bringing Anya full circle at the end. She deserves better though.

So Him is a rip off of the season 2 episode where Xander has women all over him and they even flashback to that episode. I think this is the first stinker I have in season 7 so far. I’m actually starting to get annoyed with Dawn, "Queen Slut of Sunnydale."

It's not a very good episode but shouldn't be slut shaming Dawn for having the hormones of a normal teenage girl.
 
Dawn is a bit of a moron for going out alone at night with strangers knowing all she knows. But not a slut. :)

If I were a friend of Buffy’s living in Sunnydale, any time a new person I’ve never seen in the daytime asked to be alone with me I’d squirt them with holy water first.
 
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