Speaking of hair, I kinda wish Spike would go for his older hair look. The new style looks like he bleached it but forgot to comb it.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel - First Time Viewer
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Speaking of hair, I kinda wish Spike would go for his older hair look. The new style looks like he bleached it but forgot to comb it.
I'm still pissed we never got Ripper, Giles was one of my favorite characters on Buffy and I loved the idea of him getting his own show. Weren't there like three or four different spin-offs they talked about as Buffy was ending that never came to be? We had Ripper, someone up thread already mentioned a Willow one, and then there was the animated series.Tony Head's family still lived in England during Buffy's entire run, and he wanted to spend more time with them. The plan was for him to star in his own spin-off Ripper, but UPN and the BBC couldn't agree over how many episodes it should be per year. UPN wanted 22. The BBC wanted 6. Instead of just meeting in the middle and making a 13 episode per season show, Ripper died the first of its many, many deaths.
Was The First meant to actually be a specific mythological figure? I had thought it was just a manifestation of the entire concept of evil and had pretty much existed in it's current form since the beginning of time.
Wow. Thanks for the detail. I had vaguely heard o some of this, but most of it is new info for me. My daughter has always maintained that season 6 was her favorite. The season has some great episodes, but some challenges for sure.
Noxon worked with Joss Whedon AND Matthew Weiner? Those are some high quality creative associations.
Flooded
Hey, a series that is actually touching on the finances of our heroes. I've been wondering how Buffy and gang will survive financially and I appreciated this episode tackling that question, especially with Joyce no longer there keeping things in check. I also jumped the gun on the whole Giles thing (Thank you for not replying to me with something like "Giles isn't leaving yet" when I mentioned that Stewart Head might be leaving the show). He's back and that was a very nice reunion with Buffy. I can accept Stewart Head as a guest star, considering his Role of Watcher has kind of reached it's end with The Gift, but I'm really happy I got to see he and Buffy back together. I also really liked Giles talking down to Willow. Willow really is going at this dark magic thing very casually now, which is a little scary and her response was equally as scary. It will be interesting to see where they go with Willow this season, but right now I'm starting to wonder if I will like it.
It looks like we met the big bads in Andrew, Warren, and Johnathan. I'm not sure if I like that or not yet. Also, you have the whole troupe of them being nerds and outsiders and, well, we'll see where this goes.
Hey, a series that is actually touching on the finances of our heroes. I've been wondering how Buffy and gang will survive financially and I appreciated this episode tackling that question, especially with Joyce no longer there keeping things in check. I also jumped the gun on the whole Giles thing (Thank you for not replying to me with something like "Giles isn't leaving yet" when I mentioned that Stewart Head might be leaving the show). He's back and that was a very nice reunion with Buffy. I can accept Stewart Head as a guest star, considering his Role of Watcher has kind of reached it's end with The Gift, but I'm really happy I got to see he and Buffy back together. I also really liked Giles talking down to Willow. Willow really is going at this dark magic thing very casually now, which is a little scary and her response was equally as scary. It will be interesting to see where they go with Willow this season, but right now I'm starting to wonder if I will like it.
It looks like we met the big bads in Andrew, Warren, and Johnathan. I'm not sure if I like that or not yet. Also, you have the whole troupe of them being nerds and outsiders and, well, we'll see where this goes.
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They aren't really meant to reflect nerds to much as men. Or rather, a specific type of man that just happens to be most prevalent amongst nerds. Call it "nice guy syndrome" for lack of a better term. The ones who believe women owe them sex because they're not machismo dudebros. (Despite the fact that their behavior is a lot worse when you get right down to it.) It's those who were heavily involved with gamergate and believe Jordan Peterson walks on water.
I don't want to say anything more (probably said too much already) because I don't want to turn this into a DCW thread. Besides, it's a topic that really requires women's perspectives.
I don't want to say anything more (probably said too much already) because I don't want to turn this into a DCW thread. Besides, it's a topic that really requires women's perspectives.
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You know I edited my post because I felt it might have really made this thread gone off the rails, but basically it was me being reactionary and maybe leaving my heart on the thread. Basically the PG version of that post is this show is doing a great job at representation and I know the controversial scene is a rape scene and it's hard not to put two and two together when they have a 3 second shot of the board saying "hypnotize buffy".
I am trying to give the show the benefit of the doubt though.
By the way I don't hate Jordan Peterson but I don't think he walks on water. Just leaving it out there so people might know where I'm coming from.
@CorporalClegg
That makes sense. We'll see where they go with it. Also, have we seen Andrew Before.
I am trying to give the show the benefit of the doubt though.
By the way I don't hate Jordan Peterson but I don't think he walks on water. Just leaving it out there so people might know where I'm coming from.
@CorporalClegg
That makes sense. We'll see where they go with it. Also, have we seen Andrew Before.
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I watched season one maybe 10 years ago. Everything else is new to me. Well, I do know about the major events of season 3 and 4, and the joining cast member in season 5. I read up on things throughout the years never thinking I’d give it another try. But having just rewatched Buffy I feel starved for more Buffyverse.
A starving woman would watch the Buffy Motion Comic.
Just one last note about the three brats. In order to understand what they're really about, it's important to focus on Warren. Because there's a legitimate Measure of a Woman argument to be had with April and Buffybot. And even if there isn't an argument - they really are just automatons - think of the transference that must exist with 'real' women.
In other words: "Our mission is to seek out new wives. Well, there it lays. Waiting... For missionary."
In other words: "Our mission is to seek out new wives. Well, there it lays. Waiting... For missionary."
I know I shouldn't but I kinda giggled by your last statement. It's wrong and I'm sorry.
The analogy is apt though.
We can discuss it more when we get there, but as far as the rape itself goes I do think it was a good idea in the end.
Buffy is no longer a teenager. She's 20 going on 21. And now a parent. And instead of metaphors for all the horrors teenagers have she's now facing the horrors of womanhood. She's a single mother with a [very] low-income career who's going through a heavy bout ofpostpartum postmortem depression. And they found - to the best of their ability - a way for a woman with superpowers to face the one horror that exists in the back of every woman's mind every single day.
Buffy is no longer a teenager. She's 20 going on 21. And now a parent. And instead of metaphors for all the horrors teenagers have she's now facing the horrors of womanhood. She's a single mother with a [very] low-income career who's going through a heavy bout of
I believe Andrew is the brother of the guy behind the events in The Prom.
You're in for a treat. It's definitely worth another go. Like with DS9, Legends of Tomorrow and Seasons 4+ of Agents of SHIELD, the fact that no one was watching was a massive benefit for the show. They didn't get any of the micromanaging that would have come with greater success plus they got free reign of all the characters and ideas that the mainline series didn't want anymore. The four of them are my favorite spin-offs because of how ambitious, bold and just plain weird they were allowed to be while deep diving into a beloved fictional universe.
Warren got tied of April.
Spike got peer shamed for using the Buffybot.
Joyce didn't seem to have a problem with Ted until he tried to discipline her daughter.
Willow narrowly missed losing her cherry to Malcolm, and she was almost fine with that, until she saw him. How shallow.
Season 6 spoiler...
Spike got peer shamed for using the Buffybot.
Joyce didn't seem to have a problem with Ted until he tried to discipline her daughter.
Willow narrowly missed losing her cherry to Malcolm, and she was almost fine with that, until she saw him. How shallow.
Season 6 spoiler...
The Warrenbot used as a diversion to distract Dark Willow, was probably built for sex... It might not have died a virgin?
Life Serial
Ok, in the post I deleted I said I could see myself in the trio. Well, I was wrong. I share nothing with those characters. They are like the extreme version of the "lives in the parents basement" loser. Not only that, but they are dumb. I think the only parts of this episode I liked was Drunk Buffy with Spike and the end with Giles giving Buffy the check. That was a genuine nice moment. Also, Anya is always good, especially during the loops.
All The Way
Season 6's Halloween episode felt too UPN-ish (Teenage melodrama) for my tastes. It was decent, but I can take it or leave it. Willow doing the forget spell though was wrong on so many levels. Looks like absolute power corrupting absolutely affects Witches too because Willow is going down a really dark path. I like Tara and Willow, but not like this.
Anyway, enough with that episode. The next episode is one that was a big deal when I was going to high school and the one I've been looking forward to the most since I started this. It's time to hear Sarah Michelle Gellar Sing.
Ok, in the post I deleted I said I could see myself in the trio. Well, I was wrong. I share nothing with those characters. They are like the extreme version of the "lives in the parents basement" loser. Not only that, but they are dumb. I think the only parts of this episode I liked was Drunk Buffy with Spike and the end with Giles giving Buffy the check. That was a genuine nice moment. Also, Anya is always good, especially during the loops.
All The Way
Season 6's Halloween episode felt too UPN-ish (Teenage melodrama) for my tastes. It was decent, but I can take it or leave it. Willow doing the forget spell though was wrong on so many levels. Looks like absolute power corrupting absolutely affects Witches too because Willow is going down a really dark path. I like Tara and Willow, but not like this.
Anyway, enough with that episode. The next episode is one that was a big deal when I was going to high school and the one I've been looking forward to the most since I started this. It's time to hear Sarah Michelle Gellar Sing.
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It was extra sad that Willow mind-wiped Tara considering what Glory did to her last season.
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