Eh. Nobody said he had to be the Captain. He's on Halt and Catch Fire anyway.
Bryan Fuller is Showrunner on New Trek Series
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Eh. Nobody said he had to be the Captain. He's on Halt and Catch Fire anyway.
Fuller's two DS9 episodes were Empok Nor (meh IMO) and The Darkness and the Light (ugh IMO), and he had story credit for both. Neither were arc-related stories, though Empok Nor became a location for a future story. His work on Trek didn't heavily involve any ongoing story arc, but that's not to say he isn't talented in this (especially given Hannibal). Many of this VOY teleplays leveraged past continuity a fair amount (Raven, Relativity, Workforce), so he seems to have talent in putting in nerdy references in stuff, which we fans love.
I'm only worried about the notion that he may want to give his show the "60s fun". This can be interpreted in many ways, but I'm recalling a claim made of EVERY series after TNG that the newest series would bring back the "TOS feel", with "more action". Each show arguably tried in different ways: DS9 tried some frontier themes before becoming a war epic, VOY had a greater emphasis on exploration and far less reliance on accountability than TNG, and ENT continued that trend with IMO a better result.
Who knows what Fuller will bring to the table. He certainly has the pedigree NOW that he didn't have when he started out on Trek, and I'm sure it will show - as such I'll be cautiously optimistic as we slowly hear about the concept, casting, and staffing on the show. Will he bring in talent from the previous era to work on the look of the show? Will he staff his writer's room with fans, or new blood to promote a different take?
In the end, I think the little details like the continuity or ship specs will matter very little unless they have good people making the stories up, and good people making the stories look good on screen, and we know you can't force that. Fuller seems to really be a step in the right direction and it's the right kind of early news to break to the public. I trust we'll have more, and soon.
Mark
I'm only worried about the notion that he may want to give his show the "60s fun". This can be interpreted in many ways, but I'm recalling a claim made of EVERY series after TNG that the newest series would bring back the "TOS feel", with "more action". Each show arguably tried in different ways: DS9 tried some frontier themes before becoming a war epic, VOY had a greater emphasis on exploration and far less reliance on accountability than TNG, and ENT continued that trend with IMO a better result.
Who knows what Fuller will bring to the table. He certainly has the pedigree NOW that he didn't have when he started out on Trek, and I'm sure it will show - as such I'll be cautiously optimistic as we slowly hear about the concept, casting, and staffing on the show. Will he bring in talent from the previous era to work on the look of the show? Will he staff his writer's room with fans, or new blood to promote a different take?
In the end, I think the little details like the continuity or ship specs will matter very little unless they have good people making the stories up, and good people making the stories look good on screen, and we know you can't force that. Fuller seems to really be a step in the right direction and it's the right kind of early news to break to the public. I trust we'll have more, and soon.
Mark
The first season of Heroes, Dead Like Me, and Pushing Daisies were all great in my opinion.
Most of the nuTrek cast (except for Pine, Saldana and Pegg) have appeared on TV relatively recently, so I'd imagine such stunt-casting would also be possible for an Abramsverse show set on a different ship. Particularly since Fuller has expressed support for both ideas.
The way Hollywood tends to work, it seems like there would be more "attract a broader audience" value for CBS to try and tie it to the recent movies (similar to Agents of SHIELD).
I like the hire. I haven't seen Pushing Daisies or Hannible, but he sounds like he knows what makes Trek tick, and I hope he produces a good show. However, I don't want 1960s trek. I want 2017 trek. Time to start looking forward again. The diverse cast would be great too.
Like I said, I haven't watched any of them, but there seems to be a preoccupation with death in his work.
There is a certain fondness for the macabre in his work, but a lot of quirky charm and offbeat humor as well. Think The Addams Family -- or The Munsters, which Fuller made a revival pilot for a couple of years back. Pushing Daisies was very much about death, yes, but it was also a bright, colorful, whimsical fairy tale with hilarious characters.
Well the Trek movies (love them or hate them) are already doing a good job capturing the swashbuckling, gung-ho spirit of TOS, so it's probably best to avoid that and go for something a bit deeper and more serious with this series.
But I think the element I'd most like to see, and what was often missing from the spinoffs, was a genuine sense of danger and feeling like the crew is really out there on their own on the edge of the frontier. And that they're not just on a comfortable cruise the entire time, visiting the same planets again and again or being used as a taxi service for spoiled diplomats (I think I've had more than enough of those kinds of stories for awhile).
And maybe it's finally time to get out of the Milky Way and explore some new galaxies on a full time basis.
But I think the element I'd most like to see, and what was often missing from the spinoffs, was a genuine sense of danger and feeling like the crew is really out there on their own on the edge of the frontier. And that they're not just on a comfortable cruise the entire time, visiting the same planets again and again or being used as a taxi service for spoiled diplomats (I think I've had more than enough of those kinds of stories for awhile).
And maybe it's finally time to get out of the Milky Way and explore some new galaxies on a full time basis.
Good writer, good showrunner, knows trek. no complaints.
For reasons similar to alternate realities - fewer canon quibbles.
That's a given. Movies, as a rule, can't go as deep as TV. Even the original-cast TOS and TNG movies were more superficial and more action-driven compared to the shows, because they just didn't have the room to go into the same kind of depth.
"Bride of Chaotica" I thought was a funny episode. Fuller might do a good job. At least well be able to see the pilot at least before paying a fee to watch more.
Canon issues seemed important enough to avoid for the new Abrams films. So we got the alternate reality instead of fucking canon.
Short of a version Ronald D Moore who has gotten rid of his nu-trek peeve, Brian Fuller is probably the next best choice for showrunner of the next Trek. Thumbs up!
I am sooo glad Ronald D. Moore has nothing to do with it. Lets hope Fuller does something new and doesn't need to be bogged down by continuity. Just make the best Star Trek series he can produce for CBS.
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