Bruno/Borat

[Too Much Fun]

He scores Isla Fisher?!?!??!

Holy cow!

I always enjoy this reaction. A friend of mine was once showing me that he had a Playboy with Isla Fisher on it (I've never seen any movie she's in) and I said, "Oh, I know her, she's the girl going out with that Ali G guy", and he was like, "WHAT? How did that SLOB get HER?". It just goes to show how convincing his disguises are.

I don't think everything he does is funny, sometimes it's just too much 'shock tactics', but I do think he's actually very smart, brave, and creative to go as far as he does for comedy, and I respect him for that.

 

[Messianni]

He scores Isla Fisher?!?!??!

Holy cow!

Yep. And after seeing Bruno, it looks like she has nothing to complain about. *ahem*

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

He scores Isla Fisher?!?!??!

Holy cow!

I didn't know who that was, but my god, she's attractive.

Those eyes are beautiful.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Hmm I think I'm in love.. Don't let my girlfriend find out or she'll have me by the balls.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Guess I've never heard of or seen his show.

I think I'm better off for it.

Since you've never heard of or seen the show, you have no worthwhile basis on which to conclude that you're "better off for it."

 

[McCoy]

Well, there are the movies to go by. Are they much different from the show (which I've never seen either)?

 

[Ethros]

The TV show is funnier IMO (well Borat anyway, I've not seen the Bruno film yet)

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Is it supposed to be funny? And I don't understand the premise. The way it's presented it looks like a hidden-camera situation where they just have this guy there doing absurd things and taping peoples' reactions. But some of the situations seem contrived and reactions from people seems... Ingenuine.

I'm too much of a cynic, I guess. I just can't stop thinking how easy it would be for all the scenes to be 1) staged or 2) the result of taking a lot of footage and deleting everything except the part where the poor dumb fuck makes a fool of him/herself. Either way, it's too easy for some rich guy with lots of resources at his disposal to make more money by making fun of people with no money and no clue. Not for me.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

It's not as if most of those people have all their marbles lined up correctly... Or there wouldn't be any scenes with exclamations like "All jews must die", "All niggers are thiefs" or "Gays should be killed"; those people really brought it upon themselves, in a way...

 

[Roshi]

I am an absolute fan of his. Discovered Ali G when I lived in England. God I remember when everybody would gather in the common room on Friday nights!
Sweet memories!

 

[Dream]

I wonder why they just didn't do Borat 2?

 

[Messianni]

I wonder why they just didn't do Borat 2?

Because Cohen retired the character after doing the movie. You can't really do what he does if everyone knows who he is.

 

[BillJ]

Loved Borat, thought Bruno was just awful. Felt like they just erased 'Borat' off of the script and wrote 'Bruno' on it.

Very disappointed.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I wonder why they just didn't do Borat 2?

Because Cohen retired the character after doing the movie. You can't really do what he does if everyone knows who he is.

So pprobably no more Bruno after this movie then?

 

[BillJ]

I wonder why they just didn't do Borat 2?

Because Cohen retired the character after doing the movie. You can't really do what he does if everyone knows who he is.

So pprobably no more Bruno after this movie then?

Let's hope we're that lucky!

 

[Sci]

Maybe this type of "comedy" is beyond me, after "my time" but I don't get it.

Is it supposed to be funny? And I don't understand the premise. The way it's presented it looks like a hidden-camera situation where they just have this guy there doing absurd things and taping peoples' reactions. But some of the situations seem contrived and reactions from people seems... Ingenuine.

So what's the deal with these movies?

The premise is that comedian Sasha Baron Cohen adopts a persona that exemplifies all of the stereotypes that people have about a certain group -- in the case of Borat, all of the stereotypes Americans and Britons have about people from the developing world; in the case of Bruno, all of the stereotypes Americans and Britons have about gay people (with a bit of European stereotypes thrown in for good measure) -- and to then target individuals likely to react in a bigoted manner towards those groups by interacting with them and provoking them using those stereotypes.

It's a way of exposing their inner bigotry and therefore of making fun of bigots.

 

[Trekker4747]

It's a way of exposing their inner bigotry and therefore of making fun of bigots.

So he makes people appear to be bigots by confronting them by being an overt stereotype of the thing they're bigoted about.

I guess I don't "get it."

There are bigots out there, I think we all know and accept that. I'm not sure what pretending to be a gay reporter hitting on a man who's not gay proves. I'm open-minded about gay people but if *I* were in that interview I'd probably end it early too if all the "interviewer" was doing was constantly hitting on me, making lewd comments, in spite of my rejects and protests.

I guess I just don't know what those skits/these moves are supposed to be exposing. Especially sense I'm guessing most laughing at the stereotype he is playing and not at the bigoted resposnes he's getting.

I mean, what use could there be in going to a KC hotel and having a chamber-maid catch you and a partner in S&M gear? What is that prooving or showing other than getting people to laugh at a extreme and absurd stereotype?

 

[BillJ]

Maybe this type of "comedy" is beyond me, after "my time" but I don't get it.

Is it supposed to be funny? And I don't understand the premise. The way it's presented it looks like a hidden-camera situation where they just have this guy there doing absurd things and taping peoples' reactions. But some of the situations seem contrived and reactions from people seems... Ingenuine.

So what's the deal with these movies?

The premise is that comedian Sasha Baron Cohen adopts a persona that exemplifies all of the stereotypes that people have about a certain group -- in the case of Borat, all of the stereotypes Americans and Britons have about people from the developing world; in the case of Bruno, all of the stereotypes Americans and Britons have about gay people (with a bit of European stereotypes thrown in for good measure) -- and to then target individuals likely to react in a bigoted manner towards those groups by interacting with them and provoking them using those stereotypes.

It's a way of exposing their inner bigotry and therefore of making fun of bigots.

If I were a gay person I think I would have been offended by the movie. It played to the worst gay stereotypes. The humor fell very flat. Though I loved when Harrison Ford told him to "Fuck Off!". Probably the only laugh I had in the whole movie.

Like I said earlier, I was very disappointed. I love vulgarity when it's funny, this wasn't even close.

 

[ManOnTheWave]

It's a way of exposing their inner bigotry and therefore of making fun of bigots.

So he makes people appear to be bigots by confronting them by being an overt stereotype of the thing they're bigoted about.

I guess I don't "get it."

Yeah. The most concise criticism I've heard or Bruno is, "So it's a straight guy pretending to be a gay guy goading straight guys into doing something homophobic so he can tell them they are homophobic?"

 

[Kirk's_Tights]

I want to know how the hell people are laughing more than once.

It doesn't offend me in any way possible because I go to movies with an open mind and balls swinging around makes me laugh (which, from what it sounds, would be the only time I would laugh during the crapfest) and I'm not really easy to offend but Borat was one of the DUMBEST movies I have ever seen in my entire life so I can imagine how much worse Bruno is.

Retarded, plain and simple. I hate you, Sasha.