Bridging the gap from 'Nemesis' to 'Picard'

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Danlav05, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Danlav05

    Danlav05 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Obviously a lot can happen in about 20 years (timeline tbc) but one of the things I'm anxious to learn (as a bit of a timeline freak) is what happened in between.

    We can presume something major happened that caused Picard to quit Starfleet; and at some point he got made an Admiral; and maybe why his TNG crewmates are absent?.

    I have no doubt that in the show they will tell us the backstory answering these questions, but I wonder if we'll get flashbacks showing the universe, maybe Picard's last mission.

    if not do you think this will be covered in novels or comics?
     
  2. King Daniel Beyond

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    I have a feeling the biggest event was already covered in the comics: 2009's Countdown, co-written by Alex Kurtzman. I doubt it's a coincidence that the uniforms on Picard look as close as they do.
     
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  3. Dukhat

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    I feel the opposite: I doubt that comic will be referenced in any way. For them to feel the need to follow a ten year old comic tie-in that hardly anybody read is just silly.
     
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  4. XCV330

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    The period between the beginning of Generations and Farpoint has never been covered all deeply, except for the occasional flashback. But we're able to watch post TOS trek just fine.

    I hope they leave those pages blank in this case too. It leaves room of the occasional mention in the past while letting us concentrate on what is going on "now." Filling in all the blanks now would be pointless, wouldn't make anyone happy because the people obsessed with those kind of details would never agree on the people who would write them for them.

    At the same time the main writer Chabon can do great deal of good past-tense worldbuilding (see The Yiddish Poiliceman's Union) when needed, so i don't think anyone will starve for details.

    And I don't think the Countdown comic will surface except whatever minor details they feel might be useful. They certainly aren't going to be tied to it. Maybe .1% of viewers would have read it?
     
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  5. Infern0

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    I doubt the comic itself will be referenced but I imagine the destruction of Romulus will be, that is a prime time line, Canon event, like it or not.
     
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  6. WarpFactorZ

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    Yes, the destruction of Romulus was already stated to be a central plot point.
     
  7. Infern0

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    It makes sense, and such a huge event gives them a lot of room to create a different kind of alpha quadrant to the one we were used to.
     
  8. Krandor

    Krandor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    If they do anything in show I expect it to be brief like the both battle in the premier of ds9

    anything more left to comics and books.
     
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  9. ITDUDE

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Never at any point of any tv series or movie have they cared one iota what's written in any comic book
    If Picard is successful and if they decide to do a prequel to Picard, you can bet your ass they'll come up with something brand new.
     
  10. Dukhat

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    What I meant was that I doubt that the comic will be referenced in regards to Picard himself, not about what actually happened in the comic.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    Exactly. If we get more than that I'll be very surprised.
     
  12. Lord Garth

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    I kind of would like them to lay out something like, "Here's all the fucked up shit that happened when you weren't looking!" Something that makes Star Trek spending two decades looking backward in time seem (un)intentionally done to distract from how badly things were unraveling in "The Present". Having this horrible Federation that's juxtaposed by the nice, bright uniforms, and Picard feeling like he's not on the same page. They think it's great but he sees something so much worse.
     
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  13. arch101

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    Sounds like a "Short Trek" or two, released during the fall, could cover the gap and build hype.
     
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  14. Kor

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    The series itself will probably reveal all that is necessary in order to understand what's going on.

    Kor
     
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  15. The Wormhole

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    Almost certainly
     
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  16. Tenacity

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    In that comic Picard was already out of Starfleet at the time of Romulus destruction
     
  17. Tuskin38

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    And I don't think he was an admiral when he retired either.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    Yes, but will we know what class of ship Picard was on when he did his mission?
     
  19. The Wormhole

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    Until stated otherwise, I'm just going to assume it was the Enterprise E.
     
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  20. Cutie McWhiskers

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    The premiere should answer the big questions sufficiently or know how to keep the ball rolling if it can't do an exposition-dump.

    The "dropped" teaser does have a voiceover that, without detail, does say there was a big decision and there was a blunder so we've got the basics for a series premise already. Clearly it's not quite the one where Picard ignores the gospel according to James Kirk and took a promotion to Admiral anyway, though in doing that the franchise does indirectly make Kirk look perfect and correct yet again like how he always did, apart from TWOK when he admitted making a mistake. :D Whether or not Picard's being written with continuity yet to be told or if they're lax on continuity in the way a lot of 90s Trek after 1995 got lax with as well remains to be seen. If the story is compelling, nobody's going to care about a continuity boo-boo (just like with Chekov and a couple other issues in TWOK, fans made their own headcanon/fanon/whatever that was sufficient to serve) - those things are as old as the world's other oldest profession.