Bridge of Klingon D7 ship

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  1. Raul

    Raul Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Dear all,
    I'm looking for pictures, and information, about the bridge of the Klingon D7 ship as seen in TOS.
    For what I understood, there some are scenes in the episode "The Enterprise Incident" with a Romulan crew.
    Thanks in advance
     
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  3. Timo

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    Indeed, that episode has a few shots, starting with one through the Enterprise viewscreen:

    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x02hd/theenterpriseincidenthd0145.jpg
    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x02hd/theenterpriseincidenthd0176.jpg

    Since this is the ship's XO * speaking, the obvious asymmetry could be the result of his workstation being off centerline, rather than a statement about Romulan aesthetics. Indeed, he might be working in a facility far away from the bridge for all we can tell.

    In any case, he has a personal tabletop flat display and a Starfleet-issue gooseneck display to his right, in addition to the likely wall-mounted display right in front of his face (the one he is talking to). He also has an earpiece.

    There's another bareheaded person working with him in the same space, lacking a chair and operating an instrument on a table. The helmeted minions behind the grillework no doubt tend to menial work; the bareheaded guy is likely to be an officer, even though we see no insignia. We return to this guy after Kirk's plan to steal the cloak proceeds to the actual theft:

    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x02hd/theenterpriseincidenthd1124.jpg

    A weird way to access that instrument, as if from the side. Perhaps the idea in-universe is to leave the tabletop buttons to the right free for the XO to use? We also see behind the grille, with the multilevel obstructions piled up there, to suggest depth and complexity. Might be the diagonal line implies a ramp to an upper level, while the thing to the right is an upper-level balcony on which we find a big display (the back of which we see) - to allow the user to both look above and past the heads of his colleagues in the same direction the XO is looking, and to enjoy feed of his own from that personal viewer. Perhaps Romulans don't believe in shared views (and "main viewers") much?

    A chase for the thieves then ensues. Since the XO is on his original seat, this may well be the bridge after all:

    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x02hd/theenterpriseincidenthd1487.jpg

    We now see the separating grille does not extend to the ceiling. We also see the back wall forms a corner, and the balcony or pulpit sits in that corner. Perhaps it's just a massive piece of equipment.

    That's about it from the episode. We might choose to think that the design of the Klingon bridge is similar. Or we might take a look at the animated episode "Time Trap" where we actually look into a Klingon ship...

    Timo Saloniemi

    * or an underling to the Commander, at any rate - although she might be a flotilla boss while Tal here is the ship's true skipper...
     
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  4. Timo

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    ...And this is the animated bridge. The 2260s really was the Age of the Grille.

    http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/112-BR/thetimetraphd0071.jpg

    Klingon Kaptains don't want people lurking behind their backs, though, so while again the top man is seemingly backed in a corner, it's a personal corner, with the curved wall apparently right behind him.

    http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/112-BR/thetimetraphd0161.jpg

    ...Except not: another view provides a different perspective, and the curved aft wall is in fact far, far away. Apparently it is the cylindrar wall surrounding the entire bridge, with that console for minions to starboard, but nothing much to port. Or then the lack of "port facilities" is another perspective error and the bridge actually has stuff there - either it is more or less symmetric, or then perhaps pronouncedly asymmetric.

    A further random shot, probably of the same facility:

    http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/112-BR/thetimetraphd0244.jpg

    A triangular or trapezoid porthole on the wall? Later Klingon ships have plenty of diagonal and trapezoid elements.

    The Klingons do believe in a main viewer:

    http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/112-BR/thetimetraphd0274.jpg

    And in triangles and trapezoids (this is a briefing room, though - or is it the back of the bridge? Note the steps leading to the lower right):

    http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/112-BR/thetimetraphd0310.jpg

    The reason it might be part of the bridge... This is Kaptain Kor sitting on his bridge chair, but the background comes from the briefing room:

    http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/112-BR/thetimetraphd0393.jpg

    Perhaps the bridge is asymmetric that way, then.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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    Shawnster Commodore Commodore

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    And the Romulans could have made cosmetic changes or even relocated bridge stations to fit their needs or design aesthetic. Just because they used the overall Klingon D7 design does not prohibit they made internal changes.
     
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  6. Timo

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    This regardless of whether the Romulans

    - bought Klingon ships
    - stole Klingon ships
    - built Klingon ships out of blueprints they
    * bought
    * stole

    Then again, the Romulans might have built Romulan ships merely made to look like Klingon ones, for purposes of framing the Klingons.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  7. Shawnster

    Shawnster Commodore Commodore

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    Did we ever see interiors of the Klingon starships on TOS? I don't recall any.
     
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    No, except for whatever was behind the gruff Klingon in Elaan, but I think he (deliberately no doubt) filled the whole viewscreen.
     
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    There's also this: http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/105-BR/moretribblesmoretroubleshd0376.jpg
    Looking toward the rear of the bridge behind the captain's seat?

    Viewable here:
    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=72&page=39
    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x13hd/elaanoftroyiushd1166.jpg

    Kor
     
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    Thanks to everyone for the detailed information and the links provided

    Raul
     
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    I appreciate the clean design here, as little of it as we are shown in TOS. From TMP onward, we are only shown Klingon ship interiors that are covered in filth and grime.
     
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    ZapBrannigan Commodore Commodore

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    The put up a really nice set for the Bird of Prey bridge in "Balance of Terror," but th
    Yep. The Klingons wouldn't supply a more advanced war machine to the Romulans. The Romulans had to get their hands on what they needed to build their own. The Soviets did it after WW II:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4
     
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    In dialog that hit the cutting room floor in "The Enterprise Incident" Spock flat out states the Romulans are dealing with the Klingons.


    SPOCK
    Yet with all your innovations you go to the Klingons for their new vessels.
    They are known to have little honor. I do not understand Romulan dealings
    with them.
     
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    ZapBrannigan Commodore Commodore

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    Okay, but I take the position that deleted scenes are up for grabs, as to whether they are canon or not. A scene could be cut because the producers had second thoughts. On the other hand, Nancy Kovack going totally topless under the waterfall in "A Private Little War", I say that happened. That stone cold happened. :)
     
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    Don't make me call a moderator in to give you a cold shower.
     
  16. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    There was a complete qItI'nga' in KHG that you could explore inside and outside... I'll try to find pictures...
     
  17. ZapBrannigan

    ZapBrannigan Commodore Commodore

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    I don't know what that is, but the 1970s had Michael McMaster's full set of Klingon battle cruiser blueprints.
     
  18. scotpens

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    Here's a link to Michael McMaster's Klingon D7 plans from 1975. The bridge appears to have a simple, sparse layout, with four separate consoles angled at 45 degrees to the ship's axis.
     
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  20. Timo

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    The choices of shapes in "Time Trap" no doubt reflect the exterior - this bridge would sit nicely in the cylindrar, dome-topped tower in the superstructure. Also, the triangular briefing room might be in the pie wedge section a deck or two below.

    The ST:TMP bridge is an amusing spiritual successor to the TAS one, too: the skipper at the very front, bravely leading (but protecting his back with a high backrest!), and hogging the view into the fairly compact forward viewer, and then extensive and complex assemblies aft of him (the rotating gunner chairs were cool!). But TMP quite deliberately ditched the exterior-matching overall shape, despite doing a suggestive zoom-in into the relevant portholes.

    Timo Saloniemi