Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Turtletrekker, May 30, 2019.
Yes, he didn't look quite right with Tuvok's hairline...
This is rather brilliant!
Perhaps we could solve this issue by releasing a further remaster of The Next Generation where they change Data's face to how Brent Spiner looks now? Start off with Data already looking like a seventy year old man in makeup and contact lenses.
Because nothing shows respect for an actor like telling him he looks terrible as his signature character. Sorry folks, but Brent Spiner got older and nothing can change that short of spending more time and money on deepfakes than PIC obviously had.
I don't understand why they didn't tape his neck like they did for Paul Rubens in the most recent Pee Wee movie. Obviously Rubens still needed digital retouching, but the tape helped a lot.
I'm not completely sure what point you're trying to make. They put the wig and make-up on him for the role...what problem would putting a more accurate wig on him cause?
Is anyone here a two-time Emmy Award-winning, four-time Emmy Award-nominated makeup artist who literally trained under Michael Westmore himself?
Perhaps we all need to just accept that Brent Spiner was never gonna look like he did in 1996 and let it go.
Have you met fans? Because, this has become the drumbeat. If fans can do it better then obviously it must be redone..
No, I doubt anyone here is that. So what?
I didn't say he would. You're either accidentally or intentionally ignoring what I am actually saying. Which was that it made no sense to me to put a wig on him with a hairline so dissimilar to Data's, thus making it necessary for them to alter it digitally.
Spiner agreed to digital de-aging. He mentioned it multiple times during interviews.
regardless of a person's credentials, everyone has a Stinker every now and then, I prefer to chalk it up to a tight schedule and little prep time rather than incompetence on his part. the Hairpiece never seemed to be right during filming, either a bit to far back and too round, or to low and too round, the lack of color on the lips is one that I would think is a booboo, he's always had some color to his lips. The Fellow is not responsible for that bad digital Fix on the hair, which never looks right. it was never going to be just one or the other, Makeup or Digital De-aging, was always going to be a combo, and although it could have been considerably better, the cleanup work on the face was mostly good and serviceable enough, the hair though, goodness
of course, ultimately, the incorrect hairline is a purely a technical thing, and has nothing to do with the fact that Brent Aged, accurate hairpieces are done all the time, an actor having aged is not an excuse for the work on a hairpiece, be it practical, digital, or both.
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