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News Brent Spiner Returned for "Picard" (and you could do the CGI better in 15 minutes, we get it)

Tosk said:
Some Star Wars fans were so mega-hyped for Episode I that they bought tickets to The Siege just to watch the trailer for Phantom Menace and then leave.
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I actually went to see "Regarding Henry" (1991) just to see the teaser trailer for TUC (which showed no new footage, only a mash of TOS/earlier movie clips). The irony, in retrospect, was that the film was written by J. J. Abrams. So, I guess it was a Trek adventure spanning past, present, and future time periods!

PS: I did stay for the entire film, though.
 
That TUC teaser was awesome though. And Regarding Henry ain't bad either. The Siege, from memory...not so much. :)
 
Tosk said:
I guess you've forgotten the great Siege Exodus of 1998. Some Star Wars fans were so mega-hyped for Episode I that they bought tickets to The Siege just to watch the trailer for Phantom Menace and then leave. Wild times. :)
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That was before trailers were available in high quality online worldwide the moment they were released, I guess
 
Boris Skrbic said:
only those of a regular TNG viewer who can see something looks wrong for the state of the art in 2019.
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I was a regular TNG viewer (mind you several years after the show finished), I'm pretty sure a few other people here disagreeing with you were also regular TNG viewers.

I'm going to say this for the 100th time. It's a trailer. Nothing in a trailer is ever 100% finished. In 1987 or 2019.

Stop treating it that way.
 
If anyone here had Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home on VHS or rented it, this is the trailer they saw before the movie started.

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This was several people's first exposure to TNG. And since I started with the movies even though TNG was already on the air when I became a fan, it was also my first exposure to TNG. And what did we see? Footage from the movies, right toward the beginning! But you know what? I didn't care. I didn't tear it a new asshole. It made me want to watch "Encounter at Farpoint". It did its job.

Flash-forward several years later. Here's the teaser trailer for First Contact. Do you know what's in there?

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Recycled music from the earlier movies. And recycled footage from Generations, "The Best of Both Worlds" (TNG), and the Battle of Wolf 359 in "Emissary" (DS9).

But my reaction to this, my only reaction to this was: "I can't wait to see First Contact!" Okay, not my only reaction. My other reaction was, "I can't wait to see the Enterprise-E!" I didn't go, "Oh! Look at that! The trailer recycled footage! Unprofessional! I can't believe this!"

A trailer is meant to build excitement and nothing more. If it has you excited, it did its job. The Picard trailers made me excited about the series in a way that I didn't think I would be, so it worked. At least for me. But if the small, nitpicky stuff is what you're focused on instead of the overall picture, then the overall picture lost you. So what you focus on informs how effective the trailer was for each person.

This is what sold me on Picard. It's the thing that sold me on it.
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That had me. I don't care what anyone says, that's an effective trailer. Period.

And this kept me:
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Data looks off but the whole thing looks off. Intentionally. It doesn't look right because it's not supposed to look right. It's a dream. And everything in a dream sequence is supposed to look strange in some way. So I say that it still works.
 
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Lord Garth said:
Data looks off but the whole thing looks off. Intentionally. It doesn't look right because it's not supposed to look right. It's a dream. And everything in a dream sequence is supposed to look strange in some way. So I say that it still works.
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On the flipside, Spiner said whatever they were doing to him for those shots also wasn't completely finished for the trailer, so who knows if that was on purpose or not.
 
Since they released the SDCC trailer at the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, I was more focused on that. When it came out, I was busy taking pictures of an actual Apollo 11 sample (precisely 50 years after touchdown to the second) and a flown Apollo CM and spacesuit. Then I went to see the nearby shuttle Endeavour, and in that room, next to the shuttle, after I had taken my pictures and walked around it and underneath it, I retreated to a corner, and opened the trailer on my phone. No sound, cause there were way too many people, but I wanted to see what was in it. When Seven and then Data appeared, I kinda wished I had gone to the museum later, and couldn't wait to get back home and watch it on a big screen with sound. I almost wanted to tell all those people that I ran into in that big hall: Data is in it!! Seven is in it!! It got me more excited than I thought, cause trailers usually don't show that much and I was still unsure about the show. It was more exciting to me than actual spacecraft and Apollo 11 artifacts on the 50th! So it definitely worked. The shuttle is my witness.
 
They were in a rush to get the trailer out before they finished the CGI on Data so the fans at the San Diego Comicocn con convention could see it. Brent Spiner said that when the cgi on Data is done he is suppose d to look like Data did during Star trek Nemesis.
 
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As I've said in the past, I'm pretty sure the shot of Seven with two guns is unfinished, because she's just holding one of them up and not firing, while the other one has full VFX.
 
YES, it has been confirmed that Brent Spiner is returning as a Trek character in "Star Trek: PICARD".

Isn't that Glorious !!

(just to get back to the actual thread question at hand)
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I can't wait to find out what Data'a role will be in the Picard series .The stuff with the other androids in series is what I'm really curious to see how that mystery unfolds and the stuff with the Romulans and the borg too.
 
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DaveyNY said:
YES, it has been confirmed that Brent Spiner is returning as a Trek character in "Star Trek: PICARD".
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Funny how Brent asked to die in Nemesis.

I keep thinking of Michael's line from The Godfather ("Just when I think I'm out, they PULL me back in!" :guffaw: )
 
Brent said in an interview for Star trek Picard he was first reluctant to come back as Data until Patrick called him and asked to come back to play Data if there was a good story and a reason to return.So lucky for us he came back. That's one of the things I'm most excited about the Star trek Picard series. I always disliked Data being killed off in Nemesis.Even if it was Brent's idea for his Character in that movie. I can't wait to find out how he will be brought back in the first episode.:):vulcan:
 
I still see lumpy Mr. Potatohead Data. We were told special effects weren't done in time for the first trailer and it would be fixed later. Well, it's later...
 
tharpdevenport said:
I still see lumpy Mr. Potatohead Data. We were told special effects weren't done in time for the first trailer and it would be fixed later. Well, it's later...
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It's the same scene, mirrored with the contrast/brightness turned up. "Later" is January 23rd.
 
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