Borg Vs Dominion

[Grendelsbayne]

If you had watched more of Voyager you would know the Borg have a whole transwarp infrastructure Galaxy wide, hundreds of thousands of ships and probably trillions or at least hundreds of billions of drones. Not to mention an industrial potential much greater than the dominion.

A full scale war would se the dominion probably winning many victories and the Borg suffering many casualties but they'd keep coming and coming and would adapt and sooner or later they'd assimilate a Vorta or Jem'hadar if not a changeling.

The Borg would win.

The Borg never sent their full might against the federation and Species 8472 had a biological resistance to the nanoprobes and were super advanced themselves.

I know the kind of numbers Voyager gave to the Borg, and this is exactly what I've said the entire time. My point is simply that the Changelings are potentially the most dangerous adversary the Borg could face, with the possible exception of 8472 (the biological effect of nanoprobes on Changelings is entirely up in the air, and it would be very logical to say they have a similar resistance; 8472 has the advantage of Fluidic Space as home turf which the Dominion doesn't have, but a single changeling, if immune to nanoprobes, could be as effective as dozens or hundreds of 8472 in sabotaging cubes; 8472 do seem to have better technology than the Dominion), and that the Dominion would easily handle any Borg attack on the scale of what the Borg have attempted against the Federation. Yes, of course, hundreds of thousands of cubes cannot be stopped by any known (normal) civilization, and I don't think anyone here is actually arguing that. But, at the same time, that's exactly why it was a terrible idea to make the Borg so expansive in the first place, and exactly why TNG and the other shows always featured limited numbers: because if you give the borg a massive numerical advantage on top of their massive technological advantage, then there is no story left to tell.

 

[USS Firefly]

If you had watched more of Voyager you would know the Borg have a whole transwarp infrastructure Galaxy wide, hundreds of thousands of ships and probably trillions or at least hundreds of billions of drones. Not to mention an industrial potential much greater than the dominion.

A full scale war would se the dominion probably winning many victories and the Borg suffering many casualties but they'd keep coming and coming and would adapt and sooner or later they'd assimilate a Vorta or Jem'hadar if not a changeling.

The Borg would win.

Is it ever mentioned why the Borg didn't use the transwarp gate/ exit they have next to Earth?

 

[Voth commando1]

It wasn't directly next to earth IIRC

 

[Farscape One]

It was close enough in "ENDGAME". That was another thing about the finale that I didn't like... if the Borg had that conduit already, why not use it?

 

[Voth commando1]

There is the whole farm theory.

 

[darthraidr]

The dominion.

From what I recall, we haven't seen a full on Borg fleet invasion/assault. It's typically been a ship or two. So why would this war be different? In the same vein, we've never seen a full on Dominion assault. We've seen what the dominion can scramble and get through the wormhole... but we haven't seen their true gamma quadrant might.

Strategy should also strongly be considered. The Borg, as powerful as they are... are dumb. What invading force is going to allow their enemies to wander around their ship interiors with no repercussions? That's a huge flaw that everyone exploits just about every time. The Borg fail to adapt there.

But the dominion does adapt. Foothold in the quadrant not strong enough? Butter up some races and welcome your new dominion members. Breen, Cardassians.... their assimilation into the dominion was much faster and more efficient.

I'd suspect if a dominion/Borg war were to break out, the dominion would rope in just about every faction it could... and if the vorta carrot failed, the stick they employ would be to replace key government figures to prod the faction into assisting.

 

[jonds91]

Borg. They are relentless.

 

[Voth commando1]

They also have far greater manpower and industrial potential.

 

[Voth commando1]

Let's assume the Borg sent a force comparable to the force they sent in Star Trek Destiny 7,000 ships okay maybe ten thousand as the dominion is covers more territory and is at least as powerful as the anti-dominion alliance in DS9.

They show up at the edge of Dominion Space. Or we assume this a scenario in which the Borg have assimilated or destroyed the Federation and other AQ powers.

In either case the Borg win-they take incredible casualties, and the Founders will pull out every trick in the bag-scorched earth, suicide runs, infiltration, impressed alliances(through infiltration), even say supernovas, thalaronic weapons, and probably other WMDs.

The Borg will grind them down, and slowly but inevitably the Dominion will fall.

 

[Mattadd]

What makes us think the borg haven't *already* assimilated a changeling? Contrary to what has been said above the Founders put a lot of changelings into places where they could have been assimilated. Odo was mentioned as one of many changelings the Founders sent throughout the galaxy. Odds are the borg probably encountered at least one changeling somewhere in the galaxy. Especially if they have conduits in the GQ.

 

[Mel Tenorio]

If it hasn't been aired or written it probably hasn't happened. However it's possible Borg nanites are incompatible with Changeling cellular structure.

 

[Mattadd]

It hasn't aired or been written that the borg have assimilated a Cardassian either, but I doubt that it's the case that they have never assimilated even a single Cardassian. There is a lot that has to happen off screen, they can't write everything about the universe.

 

[Voth commando1]

Are we talking about Borg being able to assimilate founders or who would win an all out war between the Borg Collective and Dominion?

 

[Prax]

Unless the Borg saw thug the Dominion had something they wanted, they wouldn't bother them. If the Dominion was perceived as a threat, the Borg would seek to destroy them.

Changings can be killed, right,?