"Bond 23" Announced!

[Starkers]

You have issues don't you?

Considering Bond had sex with two women in Casino Royale and one in QoS I'm not sure where the issue is here?

I've just finished watching The Living Daylights and, at most, Bond has sex with two women, same as Casino Royale.

I'm not sure what the highest number of women Bond's had in a film (suspect it's OHMSS, Hilly uyou dog) but it's never been as high as people think.

Personally given what happens to every woman Daniel Craig's Bond sleeps with I think Camile had a lucky escape!

 

[Hermiod]

You have issues don't you?

No, the writers do as far as they still seem ashamed that they're making Bond films.

Considering Bond had sex with two women in Casino Royale and one in QoS I'm not sure where the issue is here?

Referring to QoS specifically, we don't actually see him do anything except kiss the girl on her back. Besides, her name is Strawberry Fields - what the hell else is she in the movie for ?

Personally given what happens to every woman Daniel Craig's Bond sleeps with I think Camile had a lucky escape!

Yet, as we're continuously reminded throughout the film, she'll sleep with anyone to get ahead. Can't have done much for Bond's ego!

 

[Bob The Skutter]

^ Ha, like Bond needs an ego boost.

 

[Starkers]

You have issues don't you?

No, the writers do as far as they still seem ashamed that they're making Bond films.

Considering Bond had sex with two women in Casino Royale and one in QoS I'm not sure where the issue is here?

Referring to QoS specifically, we don't actually see him do anything except kiss the girl on her back. Besides, her name is Strawberry Fields - what the hell else is she in the movie for ?

Personally given what happens to every woman Daniel Craig's Bond sleeps with I think Camile had a lucky escape!

Yet, as we're continuously reminded throughout the film, she'll sleep with anyone to get ahead. Can't have done much for Bond's ego!

The writers and producers are making a Bond to fit the times, this is what they've always done. Bond hasn't been leading edge since Connery's time. In the 60's others imitated Bond, since that time however Bond has imitated others. Hence why Roger Moore was toting a .44 magnum in Live and Let Die just a year or so after Dirty Harry appeared, why Moonraker came out after Star Wars and why Licence to Kill felt like an 80's american action film. I'm not overly fond of the Bourning of Bond, but I do understand it.


Well we see both of them naked and in bed, so its a fair bet as to what they've been doing, and aside from Bond and Jinx in DAD we've never really seen Bond actually at it!


I fail to see what is added to QoS if Bond and Camile are seen rolling around in an inflatable dinghy while she says 'Oh James!' I quite like the fact that for once Bond didn't boff the Bond girl.

 

[Hermiod]

^QoS went way too far in to Bourne territory without actually understanding why the Bourne films were so good.

It's not what is added to the film by having him have sex with Camille, it's what's taken away. Simply put, he's a good looking guy who could if he wanted to. She's a good looking woman who would if he wanted to.

Casino Royale is more guilty of this than Quantum of Solace but I just feel that some of the creative decisions they've made are just pandering to the female audience who are all swooning over Daniel Craig's new "sensitive" Bond. In the meantime, many of us male fans are wondering why the hell he's so bothered about Vesper in the first place. Something is lost from the character when he falls for Vesper's plan.

 

[Starkers]

Sensitive Bond? He barely turned an eyebrow up at solange dying, was quite prepared to lose his balls and for Vesper to die rather than give in to Le Chiffre, and of course by the end she's just a bitch to him!

Falling for Vesper is odd, but it comes with the book, and before you say they didn't have to do the book, well they chose to and once they did that they had to include what Fleming had written to a large extent. Is there something inherantly wrong with Bond falling in love though? I mean it does happen to most men? And the whole point is that he's blinded by love (and hence doesn't consider the possibility that it's Vesper who's the traitor)

For pandering to women CR does a poor job; one is given the cliched character trait of 'only loving bastards', cheats on her husband and is horribly murdered, while the other is a shrew who lies to the man she loves, betrays her country and commits suicide!

 

[Hermiod]

^From what I've observed over the years, having good female characters is one way you really don't pander to women. They occasionally have their favourites, but most of the time they end up like Lost's Kate - insulting nicknames, picking on minor physical imperfections etc. The worst thing you can do to a female character in a film if you want the women in the audience to like her is have her be played by an attractive woman.

There is nothing wrong with Bond falling in love but the last time that happened it was with someone I could believe that he could love - Tracy. That worked, Vesper didn't.

I would also suggest that the entire premise of Quantum of Solace was that she wasn't just a "bitch" to him in the slightest.

As for the torture, he's a trained 00 agent. He wasn't going to give in to the torture, Vesper or no Vesper.

 

[Broccoli]

Giant death laser isn't cooler, it's stupid. It's completely unbelievable.

Oh really?

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Now how's an individual going to get a laser like that? What would the practical benefit be?

It's still corny, unrealistic, and cliché to have a mad supervillain with his death laser.

 

[Broccoli]

Now how's an individual going to get a laser like that?

They make it?

What would the practical benefit be?

To hold the world at ransom, obviously.

Besides, you questioned the believability of a super laser. I showed you proof of one.

Now, we need to slap that laser on a space station and cruise around the galaxy.