Black Widow anticipation thread

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  1. flavaflav

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    I do feel a bit meh right now. I think it's a mix of a long break between movies, the unknown future, and a little Marvel fatigue... I'll be buying advance tix the moment they go on sale.
     
  2. Turtletrekker

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    this should have been a phase 1 movie, or even phase 2. It's ridiculous to me that it took Marvel so long. And the thing is, I find it hard to care about this movie anymore. Years ago I would have loved it, but now I feel like I've seen this character's story and I don't need anymore.
    Also, it's the second female led Marvel movie and I'm disappointed to think of all the characters I would have preffered. Scarlet Witch (a tv show is a downgrade), Gamora and Nebula, Valkyrie backstory, Janet van Dyne (could be fun and retro), and these are just some of the characters already in the MCU.
     
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    It couldn't have been done in Phase 1 or Phase 2 because Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter didn't want to do any movies that didn't feature white males in the leads. Disney president Bob Iger had to step in personally and tell Perlmutter to stop putting roadblocks on diverse projects and immediately ordered that Black Panther and Captain Marvel be put into production. He details all this in his new book.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...k-panther-faced-pushback-inside-marvel-2019-9

    As for Natasha getting her own movie, I think she deserves it more than any of the other female characters that you mention simply by virtue of the fact that she has been there longer and Scarlett Johansson has bigger name recognition than any of the others.
     
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    Yeah, I know it couldn't have been but it still should have been.
    And no shade dude but I think having been in the MCU a longer time and Scarjo having better name recognition are poor categories to judge whether BW deserves a movie.
    Captain Marvel didn't have these things.
     
  7. Turtletrekker

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    Captain Marvel's comics were certainly selling better and had a larger following than any comic starring Black Widow. Movie studios care more about making money than they do about largely irrelevant fanboy concerns about which character "deserves" a movie more.

    Besides, Kevin Feige wanted to get Captain Marvel into the MCU before the Infinity Saga was over, and with good reason. He probably couldn't have done both movies before Infinity War, so Natasha had to wait a little bit. I have no problem with the prequel nature of the movie, especially given Feige's comments about Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul in the OP. And Scarlett Johansson was largely low-balled for her time in the MCU, and she deserves to have to a hefty paycheck before leaving the MCU forever.
     
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  9. JD

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    Wow, it's pretty impressive they've managed to keep his presence quite up to this point.
     
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    Black Widow is getting an MCU prelude comic. Usually these things are written by a Marvel studio staffer who's never written any other comics other than the MCU comics. This one, however, is written by the great Peter David, and actually has my interest. It's supposed to detail Natasha's backstory. I wonder how much, if any, contact Peter David had with Marvel Studios in crafting her story?

    https://www.marvel.com/articles/com...vel-cinematic-universe-tie-in?linkId=75861664
     
  12. Tosk

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    The current prelude comics are mostly just previous films told in comic form, so don't be surprised if the comic just shows events from Iron Man 2, The Avengers, and Winter Soldier, with some bridging material for the spaces between films.
     
  13. crookeddy

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    I don't know if they'd bring in Peter David to write that...
     
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  14. Turtletrekker

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  15. The Nth Doctor

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    Yeah, you don't bring in an old ringer like Peter fucking David for recaps.

    I normally don't care about these preludes, interludes, whatever MCU comics, but I might check this one out because it's Peter fucking David. And I think that's exactly what they're banking on.
     
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  16. Tosk

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    Hey I never said what it would be, I just said don't be surprised. ;)
     
  17. Turtletrekker

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    This won't be Peter David's first time in the MCU. He wrote the novelization to the first Iron Man and to The Incredible Hulk, back when they still did novelizations.

    And this won't be his first MCU comic either. He wrote this digital tie into the Winter Soldier, and it was an original story. Unfortunately, due to the length (I don't even think it even measures out to one full size normal comic), there really isn't that much to it. He'll have two whole issues to play with for Natasha.

    Anyway, this story still is worth checking out, despite really just being one long action sequence. It shows Steve and Natasha on a mission with Brock Rumlow in Chicago and shows us what became of the Zodiac virus that Peggy Carter recovered back in her one shot.

     
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    I'm not sure what to make of that to be honest, if you take those two options away it's not readily apparent where they might go and it does refer primarily to her wishes, not the actual direction the movie will take. One would imagine that since she didn't need to take the role and was under no contractual obligation to do so that she felt in some sense she got her wishes with the script, but it could equally be that she's being deliberately oblique.
     
  20. Turtletrekker

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    Well, she got an executive producer credit and script approval, so I would take her at her word.
     
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