Black boxes revealed

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by NCC-73515, Dec 31, 2020.

  1. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The black boxes were from the NCC-4774-E, NCC-316608, and a Cardassian Federation ship!

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  2. Dukhat

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    So the Yelchin is 4774-E and the Gov’Nor is a Cardassian ship, not a Starfleet ship.

    The Yelchin must have been ridiculously old at the time of its destruction to have such a low registry.
     
  3. Ar-Pharazon

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    At least the Cardassian one wasn't
    Cardassian Optolythic Data Rod Fake 1b.jpg
     
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  4. NCC-73515

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    The 316608 is the Giacconi
     
  5. 137th Gebirg

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    Good find, well done!
     
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  6. SpocksOddSocks

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    Not if it was the 6th Yelchin. Don't forget Discovery was the first ship we've seen get a letter on the registry despite being confirmed to be the same ship.
     
  7. Timo

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    Well, the 5th Yelchin after the first famous one. There might have been a dozen before that.

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  8. Dukhat

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    The 6th Yelchin would be analogous to the 6th Enterprise, and I doubt the Enterprise-E was still in service in the 31st century.
     
  9. Timo

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    Only in the case that

    1) the Yelchin-A was launched around the same time as the Enterprise-A, even though ships with 4000 range registries weren't yet a thing in the TOS movies while NCC-1701 appeared to be ancient, and
    2) there were no major gaps, even though the Enterprises had one between the C and the D.

    With those, we can add perhaps a century or two to the story. How is it going to take us to the 31st century from what was probably the early 24th? Well, we can put the gaps in the early days, so that the latter ships are the ones with futuristic longevity. And perhaps fairly event-free careers, so that they can live out happy and full service lives.

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  10. Dukhat

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    The Constellation class had registries of NCC-3XXX and 4XXX. So that’s not a far cry from the TMP Enterprise as far as lineage is concerned.

    And even if each Yelchin lasted for a century, the E would still only be contemporary to the 28th century or so.
     
  11. Ronald Held

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    Is that assumption based on when the previous ship is destroyed or decommissioned,a new one is christened a few years later?
     
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  12. Dukhat

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    One year or 30 years isn’t much of a difference in a timespan of 900 years.
     
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  13. dupersuper

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    Well, we see the J in the 26th century (and the F in 2410 if you're into STO).
     
  14. Dukhat

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    The J was from a different timeline.
     
  15. dupersuper

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    How do you figure that?
     
  16. Dukhat

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    Because in the prime timeline the Sphere Builders didn’t expand the Delphic Expanse to cover the entire Alpha Quadrant from the 22nd century to the 26th.
     
  17. Tim Thomason

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    So? What does that matter?
     
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  18. Dukhat

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    Because the conversation was about the apparent age of the Yelchin NCC-4774-E at the time of its destruction, and that its registry could have made it a contemporary of the Enterprise NCC-1701-E, and how either ship still being on active duty in the 31st century is a stretch. Someone else pointed out that we’re already at the Enterprise-J by the 26th century, and I pointed out that the J was not from the prime timeline, and therefore not germane to the discussion. Does that clear it up?
     
  19. NCC-73515

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    doesn't change the century number, does it...
     
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  20. Tim Thomason

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    The J is in the 26th century regardless of where the E was in its timeline. It still tells us something of the longevity of Starfleet legacy numbering, and possible spacing. Applying the J's spacing (about 2.3 letters including a Nil, from every century), then the Yelchin-E might coincidentally date to around the early 26th century.

    More likely, of course, there are large gaps and/or large service histories of the Yelchins and it was probably a 30th or 31st century launch.