News Bill and Ted Face the Music Officially Announced
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Up until this week I had never heard of these movies. I watched the first one a few days ago and the second today. Love them! The trailer for the third looks EXCELLENT.
Just finished watching it. I don't know if we're going to start a spoiler thread or not but I will say most definitively that Bill and Ted Face the Music is bodaciously awesome. I expected to like it. I expected to laugh often. I did not expect this silly grin I've currently got plastered on my face or the tears I currently have in my eyes. A wonderful return and wonderful capstone should they choose to not revisit these characters again. Quite excellent and totally non heinous. Oh wait! There's a scene at the end of the credits...
Ha! Watch all the way to the end.
Ha! Watch all the way to the end.
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I'd like to know (spoiler box if necessary) how they deal with the end title sequence of Bogus Journey, the headlines about the great future coming to pass. Do they just ignore it? Do they retcon it as B&T's fantasy rather than reality? At least one review I read seemed to suggest that the stuff in the news montage (at least some of it) actually did happen, but the good times didn't last.
The movie was most excellent!
Watched this last night, from the safety of my own home, obviously, and liked it but didn't love it. Alex Winter dropped straight back into Bill as if he hadn't spent the last three decades as an acclaimed director rather than an actor but Keanu never really convinced as Ted. (Plus they need to pass a law saying he's not allowed to appear without a beard anymore as he just looks weird without one now.)
And I know it had a low budget but wow it really showed. We're talking SyFy channel TV Movie levels of CGI and greenscreening, so I can only imagine how much worse it would have looked on a cinema screen.
The one thing that really annoyed me about it was recasting the Princesses with actresses who are 10-15 years younger than they should be. Hollywood sexism at it's finest.
And I know it had a low budget but wow it really showed. We're talking SyFy channel TV Movie levels of CGI and greenscreening, so I can only imagine how much worse it would have looked on a cinema screen.
The one thing that really annoyed me about it was recasting the Princesses with actresses who are 10-15 years younger than they should be. Hollywood sexism at it's finest.
Well, they are "Princess Babes," so it stands to reason they'd be youthful...
Sorry, that was heinous.
Sorry, that was heinous.
Little Bill and Little Ted got recast with younger actresses too.
Little Bill and Little Ted got recast with younger actresses too.
You know, that makes sense. At the end of the second movie, Bill & Ted traveled through time for years (judging from their beard growth) to master their instruments, so it stands to reason that they'd have aged more than the people around them. Maybe they did some more time traveling in the interim as well. Is it specified what year the new film is set in?
Did the princess not travel to the future with them? I mean, they'd have to in order to get married, have the honeymoons and then the kids.
I figured maybe they were only there for part of the trip. Anyway, the time travel makes an easy handwave for any inconsistency in character ages.
For the record, they were gone for 16 months. Less than a year and a half. 'Twas right there in the dialogue. Which checks out since the two babies looked like they were somewhere around the 6 month old mark.
As for the Princesses; they would have to have been there for most of that time...I mean do I really have to draw a diagram?
There's two ways to deal with the apparent age disparities in the new movie: 1) at some point everyone but Bill and Ted jumped in the phone booth, went forward a decade and just stayed there. 2) It's just a dumb movie, it doesn't matter, so just relax and have fun.
As for the Princesses; they would have to have been there for most of that time...I mean do I really have to draw a diagram?
There's two ways to deal with the apparent age disparities in the new movie: 1) at some point everyone but Bill and Ted jumped in the phone booth, went forward a decade and just stayed there. 2) It's just a dumb movie, it doesn't matter, so just relax and have fun.
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I bought it on Amazon and have watched it twice now. The best way to answer that is some parts of the news montage are directly addressed in a opening narration and at various parts of the film. There specific to Wild Stallyns success as musical group. Which was short lived. They did have a number one hit song( but does not unite the world )the band does have a big tour , and did play the Grand Canyon. Death left the group and did a solo album. The band breaks up. Unlike the end credits, they never reunite. Bill and Ted alone try repeatedly to create the song that unites the world. But over the years the public lost interest in their music and faded into obscurity.
SPOILERS
The big spoiler is that the movie redefines what Bill and Ted’s goal is. Without bringing the world together with music - space and time are starting to fall apart. People from the past are randomly appearing in the present and people from the present in the past. The geography of the Earth and Solar system starts to be all mixed up. It is specifically mentioned in the far future that there are many different interpretations of history as to what Bill and Ted actually did in the past. Rufus’s was just one.
I really enjoyed it. Even more on second viewing. I think Keanu was fine as Ted. The big difference is we have seen him age over the decades in many roles. While Alex Winter has almost completely worked behind the camera. While both characters are true to their personalities, they have aged. Which both brought to their performances. They both dress as realistic middle age men who want to look youthful and casual. But I am glad they did not have them so stuck in the past to be dressed in 80s, 90s.
I would not have noticed if I had not read online. In the end credits there is a special thanks to actors who did not participate in this movie. All four “Original Princesses” from both previous movies are named. Along with all the actors who contributed to Station and the good robotic Bill and Teds. Make you wonder if that was a result of negative reactions online when these new young Princesses were cast?
Their role is small but a little more substantial than the previous films. Makes you wonder if they ever considered returning any of the previous Actresses .
I would not have noticed if I had not read online. In the end credits there is a special thanks to actors who did not participate in this movie. All four “Original Princesses” from both previous movies are named. Along with all the actors who contributed to Station and the good robotic Bill and Teds. Make you wonder if that was a result of negative reactions online when these new young Princesses were cast?
Their role is small but a little more substantial than the previous films. Makes you wonder if they ever considered returning any of the previous Actresses .
I just got done watching it OnDemand (honestly, I think I could get used to seeing movies like this considering the current problems with crowds, theaters and my now living in a place without a multi-plex with numerous screenings during the day) and I give it a...
An up-beat "Meh." I enjoyed it, it was fun, I got a couple chuckles out of it but, well, it feels like a sequel made 20-something years after its latest iteration while at the same time being different enough that it doesn't entirely feel like going back to the well. But, more over, the effects of sort of makes it look like a made-for-TV movie, the CGI and green-screening is really not something that's movie-theater quality but is right at home on a DTV-type release.
We've seen enough different versions of Keanu over the the last couple decades it's hard to get into seeing him as Ted again and I don't think he ever fully clicks back into it but he's mostly there. Alex Winter has the advantage of not having a meaningful on-screen career over the time so he fits in as Bill again pretty well.
The two actors who play Bill and Ted's daughters do a good job of playing as copies of the young Bill and Ted with their mannerisms and way of speaking and also sort of fitting with how we probably look at people in that age group these days.
The movie starts with sort-of recap of the movies have been about and a little-bit rewrites the ending montage of the second movie. They had a hit song for a while with the only notable band member being Death who really did break-off to do his own thing but the band never reunited, from the take of what's going on we can infer that they never did play Mars and their music/playing didn't really do things like cure cancer or clean up the environment as suggested by that ending montage.
The time it has taken for Bill and Ted to achieve their destiny has caused reality and time to start to fall apart with people from different times appearing at different times and even places start moving through time and space, Bill and Ted are given a ticking clock from the future that they have to achieve their goal by a set time or reality itself will collapse. They decide to take the time-traveling phone-booth to travel to their own future and try and steal the song from "themselves" but they keep encountering their future selves who're pissed at their past-selves for failing at their destiny which caused the Princesses to leave them.
Meanwhile their daughters decide to try and put together a great band by collecting the greatest musicians from the past (including Jimmy Hendrix, Louie Armstrong, Mozart and someone from prehistoric times who plays by hitting bones things.)
Further meanwhile, the future starts juggling with other concepts of what really causes the future to turn out utopia which includes the death of Bill and Ted so they dispatch a killer-robot to kill Bill and Ted.
There's a lot of entertaining moments in the movie between the travels of Bill and Ted and then their daughters and both sides do a good job of bringing the entertainment and humor.
But the movie overall just feels like it's missing some beat and there's an ending that...
Well, I think the ending will piss a number of people off.
I didn't mind it, but given how some aspects of what's going on in our society... It's going to piss people off.
The movie oddly seems to just stop. It doesn't seem to slow down and then come to and end it just stops, it almost feels like that... "Lord of the Flies" episode of the Simpsons where a school-bus full of kids trapped on an island (creating a Lord of the Flies like society) and then when it ends a narrator says "And eventually the kids were saved by... let's say Moe." It's not quite that bad, but it doesn't entirely feel like a natural ending.
I dunno, if you liked the first two movies it's worth a watch. I liked it I think about as much as I was expecting to. I got entertainment out of it.
3-out-of-5 Stars, maybe a B-.
An up-beat "Meh." I enjoyed it, it was fun, I got a couple chuckles out of it but, well, it feels like a sequel made 20-something years after its latest iteration while at the same time being different enough that it doesn't entirely feel like going back to the well. But, more over, the effects of sort of makes it look like a made-for-TV movie, the CGI and green-screening is really not something that's movie-theater quality but is right at home on a DTV-type release.
We've seen enough different versions of Keanu over the the last couple decades it's hard to get into seeing him as Ted again and I don't think he ever fully clicks back into it but he's mostly there. Alex Winter has the advantage of not having a meaningful on-screen career over the time so he fits in as Bill again pretty well.
The two actors who play Bill and Ted's daughters do a good job of playing as copies of the young Bill and Ted with their mannerisms and way of speaking and also sort of fitting with how we probably look at people in that age group these days.
The movie starts with sort-of recap of the movies have been about and a little-bit rewrites the ending montage of the second movie. They had a hit song for a while with the only notable band member being Death who really did break-off to do his own thing but the band never reunited, from the take of what's going on we can infer that they never did play Mars and their music/playing didn't really do things like cure cancer or clean up the environment as suggested by that ending montage.
The time it has taken for Bill and Ted to achieve their destiny has caused reality and time to start to fall apart with people from different times appearing at different times and even places start moving through time and space, Bill and Ted are given a ticking clock from the future that they have to achieve their goal by a set time or reality itself will collapse. They decide to take the time-traveling phone-booth to travel to their own future and try and steal the song from "themselves" but they keep encountering their future selves who're pissed at their past-selves for failing at their destiny which caused the Princesses to leave them.
Meanwhile their daughters decide to try and put together a great band by collecting the greatest musicians from the past (including Jimmy Hendrix, Louie Armstrong, Mozart and someone from prehistoric times who plays by hitting bones things.)
Further meanwhile, the future starts juggling with other concepts of what really causes the future to turn out utopia which includes the death of Bill and Ted so they dispatch a killer-robot to kill Bill and Ted.
There's a lot of entertaining moments in the movie between the travels of Bill and Ted and then their daughters and both sides do a good job of bringing the entertainment and humor.
But the movie overall just feels like it's missing some beat and there's an ending that...
Well, I think the ending will piss a number of people off.
I didn't mind it, but given how some aspects of what's going on in our society... It's going to piss people off.
This aspect being the "Men-nist" aspect of our culture who were already upset that Bill and Ted's babies were made into daughters when Bogus Journey suggested they had sons, well they're going to be upset when the ending reveals that Bill and Ted's daughters played the larger role in the the song that saves the world/reality.
The movie oddly seems to just stop. It doesn't seem to slow down and then come to and end it just stops, it almost feels like that... "Lord of the Flies" episode of the Simpsons where a school-bus full of kids trapped on an island (creating a Lord of the Flies like society) and then when it ends a narrator says "And eventually the kids were saved by... let's say Moe." It's not quite that bad, but it doesn't entirely feel like a natural ending.
I dunno, if you liked the first two movies it's worth a watch. I liked it I think about as much as I was expecting to. I got entertainment out of it.
3-out-of-5 Stars, maybe a B-.
Watched it last night too.
And yeah the ending, as in the literal ending of the film, is dire. "erm, is that it?" only partially does it justice. It's like it just stopped. And then that montage of random people (fans I'm guessing) dancing around like dorks was really cringe worthy.
I enoyed the first 20/30 minutes or so, it was so great to see them back playing those roles after so long, and the appearances of other characters too. But after that it felt like it just became a mess, and just stopped being funny really. Don't know why it seems to getting really good reviews, but if people like it good for them. I love the first one, really like the second.. don't know if I'd be bothered watching this again.
Shame as I just got the 4K of Excellent Adventure last week and rewathed a couple of days. Just nothing but non stop fun and positivity from beginning to end. And this one kinda felt like the opposite.
Just from the fact they'd made their sons into daughters, I saw that ending coming from the first trailer alone. It was blindingly obvious what a "twist" was gonna be. We all saw Terminator Dark Fate too didn't we.
And yeah the ending, as in the literal ending of the film, is dire. "erm, is that it?" only partially does it justice. It's like it just stopped. And then that montage of random people (fans I'm guessing) dancing around like dorks was really cringe worthy.
I enoyed the first 20/30 minutes or so, it was so great to see them back playing those roles after so long, and the appearances of other characters too. But after that it felt like it just became a mess, and just stopped being funny really. Don't know why it seems to getting really good reviews, but if people like it good for them. I love the first one, really like the second.. don't know if I'd be bothered watching this again.
Shame as I just got the 4K of Excellent Adventure last week and rewathed a couple of days. Just nothing but non stop fun and positivity from beginning to end. And this one kinda felt like the opposite.