Big Theory on River Song **SOME SPOILERS**

[Photoman15]

Well, too, all that flirting will turn really nasty if River is revealed as Amy's daughter. River is a finite character, whose end is known from her first appearance. I don't want to see a baby wasted in that way.

How do you mean wasted? We don't know about her childhood, or teens. We know she becomes an archeologist and loves adventure. Travels some with the Doctor, becomes very close and in the end, sacrifices herself so the Doctor doesn't and saves the people saved in CAL. Not a bad life for a baby to look forward to.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Indeed. This is kind of why I would love to read a River Song series of novels.

 

[PorthosShadow]

Well, too, all that flirting will turn really nasty if River is revealed as Amy's daughter. River is a finite character, whose end is known from her first appearance. I don't want to see a baby wasted in that way.

How do you mean wasted? We don't know about her childhood, or teens. We know she becomes an archeologist and loves adventure. Travels some with the Doctor, becomes very close and in the end, sacrifices herself so the Doctor doesn't and saves the people saved in CAL. Not a bad life for a baby to look forward to.

Also, despite losing her physical form and being uploaded into a computer simulation she gets to live the life she wants. I never felt that River died in "Forest Of The Dead", just changed.

 

[RevdKathy]

I think I'd be disappointed to see Amy reduced to surrogate-who-produced-River.

Spoiler: spoilers for ep 6

I am also having trouble with the whole "trapped and impregnated in a little white pod" storyline being family TV. Even if it does have huge echoes of traditional grey-alien storylines.

I hope River is NOT Amy's child.

 

[Irvy]

My personal theory, formed over the last few weeks, goes into the evolution of the Time Lords. Perhaps, the first Gallifreyan children to be conceived in the Time Vortex were the first to develop the ability to regenerate, an ability that was then studied and understood, and we could go into the whole purpose of the Loom there if we wanted.

If the child we saw regenerate is Amy and Rory's baby, the first earth human to be conceived in the Time Vortex, and is also River, that would make River the first Time Lord Human, and quite possibly the only living soul who could start a new breed of Time Lords with the Doctor... if only he didn't already know her fate.

Of course, as Sexy pointed out, the only water in the forest is the River.

And Time can be rewritten.

 

[Rosalind]

I'm leaning heavily towards the "River is Amy's daughter" theory after watching the latest video on A good man goes to war.

I seriously hope that isn't going to be the case, but I suppose if it is, then I've had weeks to digest it, and it'll won't be too bad a shock for me.

 

[ClayinCA]

At this point, I can't see any answer to the question, "Who is River Song?" that isn't "She's Amy Pond's daughter." Which I'm not...thrilled about, exactly. But I trust Moffat, so we'll see...

 

[Yminale]

My theory is that River is the Doctor's Tardis.

Seriously we know that River is very intimate with the Doctor and is implied to be his wife.

We have an episode called "The Doctor's Wife" and we find out that the wife is actually the Tardis.

Well 2+2 = 5 right

 

[Slugboy]

B) The Cleric said to the Doctor in Flesh and Stone that River was in prison for killing a great man. I believe that great man was the Doctor and the Clerics somehow found

This seems reasonable, but I get the idea that Moffat won't go for the obvious solution.

So here's my bizarre idea: the "great man" that the Cleric referred to isn't the Doctor, but Rory. Here's a guy who guarded his girlfriend for over 2000 years and who is capable of great compassion (in The Rebel Flesh he is the only person to really warm up to one of the Flesh-ers).

Admittedly my theory is nowhere near as well-thought-out as yours, but I thought I'd just throw it out there anyway.

An argument against my theory is that Rory has already died or had a near-death experience multiple times---doing it again would have very little impact on viewers.

 

[Sagart]

I met Alex at a Con last weekend, but she wasn't giving anything away!! Lovely woman, great character!!

 

[ElBurro]

Since Impossible Astronaut, I've been pretty much convinced that River is the one in the spacesuit. It was one line in particular where she was talking to Rory and said that she was a young girl when she first met the Doctor. We have seen both her first time meeting the Doctor and the Doctor's first time meeting her (or at least where told they were the first meetings) and both times River was played by Alex Kingston. I wouldn't use the words 'young girl' to describe Alex Kingston, would you? Steven Moffat has never struck me as the kind of writer who do something like that without there being a deeper meaning.

And I reckon River probably is Amy and Rory's daughter and Amy spending so much time in the TARDIS has given her a 'time head' (whatever that is ) Either that or Moffat knows that that is what people will think and has deliberately set up a red herring.

Whatever the truth about the character is, I hope that it signals the end of her time on the show. While I am a fan of Alex Kingston, I've always thought she was miscast in this role. I loved her in ER and in Marchlands, but IMHO there is something a little off about her as River. Is that just me or does anyone else see it?

 

[Sindatur]

Since Impossible Astronaut, I've been pretty much convinced that River is the one in the spacesuit. It was one line in particular where she was talking to Rory and said that she was a young girl when she first met the Doctor. We have seen both her first time meeting the Doctor and the Doctor's first time meeting her (or at least where told they were the first meetings) and both times River was played by Alex Kingston. I wouldn't use the words 'young girl' to describe Alex Kingston, would you? Steven Moffat has never struck me as the kind of writer who do something like that without there being a deeper meaning.

And I reckon River probably is Amy and Rory's daughter and Amy spending so much time in the TARDIS has given her a 'time head' (whatever that is ) Either that or Moffat knows that that is what people will think and has deliberately set up a red herring.

Whatever the truth about the character is, I hope that it signals the end of her time on the show. While I am a fan of Alex Kingston, I've always thought she was miscast in this role. I loved her in ER and in Marchlands, but IMHO there is something a little off about her as River. Is that just me or does anyone else see it?

I personally really enjoy the character River, and can't imagine anyone else playing her so perfectly.

Regarding the young Girl comment, look back to Silence in the Library, when she spoke of how young Tennant was. "young Girl" could just as easily mean naive to the ways of Time and Space" as easily as it could be literally her being a little girl. Little Girl, yea, can only be interpretted as literally being a child, Young Girl could be interpretted in either way. This is isn't to say the "River in the spacesuit is Amy and Rory's child..." theory is incorrect, only saying there is still room for interpretation.

When were we told was River's first time meeting the Doctor? That ahsn't been confirmed, to the best of my knowledge. All we know for sure, I believe, is the Doctor's first meeting of River.

 

[ElBurro]

^ You're right, they never said it was her first time meeting him. My mistake - oops! I could have sworn they said it was at one point but I've gone back and checked and they don't.

You're right about 'young girl' being open to interpretation, but just before that she said she first met the Doctor 'a long long time ago'.

 

[Winterwind]

I think Alex Kingston plays River wonderfully. I'm just getting somewhat tired of the "who is she" question so I'll be glad when it's resolved. And I really hope she doesn't turn out to be Amy's daughter.

 

[PorthosShadow]

I think Alex Kingston plays River wonderfully. I'm just getting somewhat tired of the "who is she" question so I'll be glad when it's resolved. And I really hope she doesn't turn out to be Amy's daughter.

Aside from the disappointment of finding out the obvious, I don't see the problem with her being Amy's daughter. I'm not really sure what that particular story would go but I think it could be very interesting.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

River song is...

Spoiler: 'spoilers sweetie.' Shut up river...

Adric

 

[Australis]

Whatever the truth about the character is, I hope that it signals the end of her time on the show. While I am a fan of Alex Kingston, I've always thought she was miscast in this role. I loved her in ER and in Marchlands, but IMHO there is something a little off about her as River. Is that just me or does anyone else see it?

It's just you.

 

[23skidoo]

Are we allowed to discuss who we now know River to be, or is this being saved for when AGMGTW airs in North America next week?

Alex

 

[Australis]

I strongly suggest saving it.

(Yes, I ninja'd my post, to be fair.)

 

[Mitty]

I can't believe the North American's don't do what the rest of the planet has been doing for their shows for the last ten years or so. I love it when the shoe is on the other foot. I'm in Australia and it doesn't air here til next week either, but I'd seen it within hours of airing. In this day and age, there is no need to wait just because of outdated rules of distribution. The sooner media companies wise up and allow everyone to have it at the same time (even for a price), the better.