Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Temis the Vorta, Apr 9, 2013.
It's the same in the pilot episode.
The more I think about it the more I think that was goodbye, Kim can't keep pulling the lawyer trick and I'm not sure what kind of visitation rights (if any) Jimmy has in that kind of prison.
Oh that's right! Which makes sense, as it was scenes from his past, so technically they were watching an in-frame flashback.
He was her husband. They can do visitation. It's not like he was a mass murderer who would do violent attacks on another inmates.... Nobody would care...unless Howard's widow blows up everything with that civil lawsuit...
Even if at that point, Kim isn't sure if she's ever going to come back again, I don't think she can stay away forever.
I still can't entirely process the ending. He had a sweet deal and he threw it all away. Then again, I watched Han Solo give away 60 million credits.
I'm already into my rewatch and so many things are popping out at me like crazy. But the one that has stood out the most to me so far (three episodes in): Jimmy in prison in the show's first flashback. I had forgotten that scene was so early on and it's practically a bookend to the end of his entire character arc.
I don't think it's a Grinch situation where on the stand, he was on Mount Crumpit and his heart grew three sizes that day, but as I said, he gave up his life to save his soul--notably by finally admitting to himself and others that he was responsible for Chuck's death. That's why Chuck was the final flashback: All Jimmy ever wanted was his brother's approval, and instead he basically drove him to financial ruin and suicide.
I do think Jimmy will have a mental breakdown in prison in about eight years, when he realizes that he could've been out if he had simply let go of his conscience.
Of course she is coming back. And will be leaving with him in the trunk of her car where they will then ditch her car and get into a van being driven by a guy who works for the vacuum cleaner guy who will then give them some money, new ID's and trip to a nearby lake where they will hope onboard a seaplane for a new hidden location the law won't fine.
Speaking of that suicide, I just watched the episode where he was hospitalized after stealing a neighbor's newspaper and we meet Clea Duvall's Dr. Lara Cruz for the first time. The eyepopping part is when she specifically expressed her concerns about him using Coleman lanterns because they could lead to his house burning down.
I caught that too on my rewatch
I really liked the finale. I think it's just about as perfect as an ending that Jimmy and Kim could get. Of course, Jimmy had to make his deal hearing a total shitshow.
"No, no. The U.S. Government would like Mr. Goodman to continue."
Jimmy will thrive in prison. The best part is: he's already in for 86 years, the law can't do anything more to him. What can they do? Add more time to a sentence he can't possibly live out?
As long as his fellow inmates have his back, he'll be fine. They'll come to him for legal advice. And if it goes south, it's not his fault because he's not their lawyer. He can say, "If only your lawyer did X, Y, Z... " He can deflect forever.
The only things that got him as Gene were having to hide and having no way to reach Kim. Both of those are no longer problems. He just doesn't have his freedom. But didn't really have that when he was Gene anyway.
That last line was a great laugh out loud moment.
You can imagine Walter White furiously spinning in his grave as Saul claims responsibility for building 'his' meth empire.
Yes but as boring as working at the Cinnabon might be it's still better than living in a prison. Plus lots easier to have sex assuming he was doing that. He will get bye and sort of thrive in the environment but I got to think freedom from not being locked up is always going to be a better life.
Depends, I don't think you're factoring in the constant fear of being caught out. Gene's life was boring, but probably also incredibly stressful. Will today be the day the police show up at my door? He might not even have been consciously aware of that stress, but I guarantee it was there.
Obviously being in prison comes with it's own set of worries!
Is anyone clear how long Jimmy actually managed to live as Gene? Originally it seemed like we might have been talking years after the end of Breaking Bad but in those last few episodes it seemed more like just a few months!
For you and me, sure. For Saul, having to bottle himself up an sit in the trash room for four hours waiting for someone else to come by is more emotionally painful than being physically restrained.
A lot of people in real life who are on the run from the law end up feeling relieved when they get caught, because the fear and uncertainty is gone.
According to the Breaking Bad Wiki, he disappears himself on March 20, 2010, and he gets caught in December 2010.
He couldn't even make it a year as nobody.
One thing I'm lamenting about the later seasons, heavily influenced by the bend towards Breaking Bad, is the repercussions for Sandpiper. Yes, we saw that lawsuit ultimately resolved but it was mostly within the confines of hurting Howard and allowing Saul to get his big payday. But as I'm finishing up season one, I had forgotten how awful those people were (I also forgot Rich Schweikart was first introduced as their lawyer). I just wish we saw more justice for the residents of Sandpiper's shenanigans.
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