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Better Call Saul, the TV series

That was a cool episode. I've missed the black and white Gene-vision this season, so they've made up by having us a whole episode about Gene.

It was fascinating watching him slipping back into his old Slippin' Jimmy persona.
 
I knew that piece of music from when "Gene" was schmoozing the guards sound familiar.
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JirinPanthosa said:
That was a neat episode. It was obvious from the get go what Gene was trying to do, dirty their hands so they couldn't come forward. I'm glad speculation about murdering them was off, and he will still go way out of his way to avoid actually hurting anyone.

But it also seemed like the taste of his former self he got is going to be difficult for him to ignore.

I wonder if the next episode will be entirely Kim.

Also I wonder how he got out of still bringing those guards cinnabons every single day.
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I knew the slip was coming, but half suspected that might be a red herring and that Jimmy would get up there to find it was the guy's night off!

I wonder if this is the last of Jeffy we'll see. The line from his mum about him getting in with a bad crowd in Albuquerque? He might not be able to call the cops, but there will presumably still be criminal elements in Albuquerque who might have unfinished business with Saul?

I was thinking to myself, if you're smart Jimmy you'll keep up the act with the cinnabons for the next few weeks at least.

He's definitely got the taste back now though.
 
One other thing worth mentioning about Howard is that comment about joining the firm because helps father wanted another H.

And Jimmy’s observation that he wasn’t a good lawyer, but he was a good salesman.

In that light, he was never living his own chosen life.

Is there any criminal element left in Albuquerque with a problem with Jimmy? I’d think he’d have more enemies on the enforcement side of the law.
 
As much as I don't want to see Jeff again, I like the theory that I saw today (I think A.V. Club's review) that suggests that perhaps Marion sees through Gene's con.

Plus, I think I read that Carol Burnett is set to appear in multiple episodes.
 
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Starkers said:
I knew the slip was coming, but half suspected that might be a red herring and that Jimmy would get up there to find it was the guy's night off!

I wonder if this is the last of Jeffy we'll see. The line from his mum about him getting in with a bad crowd in Albuquerque? He might not be able to call the cops, but there will presumably still be criminal elements in Albuquerque who might have unfinished business with Saul?

I was thinking to myself, if you're smart Jimmy you'll keep up the act with the cinnabons for the next few weeks at least.

He's definitely got the taste back now though.
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So did that make him "slippin' Jeffy"? And, yeah, I thought of him keeping it up with the cinnabons too.
 
1001001 said:
I agree, now the question is can he put Saul back in the bottle.

He's got a taste for scheming again.
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Perhaps, but It's in a very different time and place and especially circumstances. Back in Cicero/Chicago, he grew up there, knew the folks personally and perhaps in the game somehow and still lived there as a young man. In Albuquerque, He had his brother, HHM, and later Kim, and managed to get into the game before losing them. But in Omaha, he had nobody in Omaha and most likely stayed out of the game as authorities wants him (and perhaps certain criminal folks who weren't snuffed out by the end of Breaking Bad)... He probably was Bsing him when he talked as if he knew who was in the game in Omaha. I suspect he didn't.

He might miss the scheming, but it would be hard to go back to his old ways. We will see how the next three episodes turns out.
 
In away Jimmy's whole life as Gene is nothing but being in the game. When your in hiding and wanted by the law everything you do is not getting caught and surviving.
 
It'd be kind of anticlimactic if after all that Jimmy was brought down by a random cabby and his kindly disabled mother.

He didn't explain to the cabby how to unload all that stuff without getting caught. But I guess even if he did get caught trying to sell the stolen goods, he'd still rather be prosecuted for the theft than have Gene explain the interstate commerce aspect of the theft.

I think that Jesse getting away raises the chances of Jimmy getting sent to jail. Whereas if Jesse had been sent to jail it'd raise the odds of Jimmy escaping.
 
JirinPanthosa said:
It'd be kind of anticlimactic if after all that Jimmy was brought down by a random cabby and his kindly disabled mother.
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I think that's perfect. After years and years of slippin' away from trouble, whether it was the cartel or the DEA, Jimmy/Saul/Gene gets snared by a kindly (but also snarky!) disabled woman.

Who just happens to be played by Carol Burnett.

I'm all for that ending.

JirinPanthosa said:
I think that Jesse getting away raises the chances of Jimmy getting sent to jail. Whereas if Jesse had been sent to jail it'd raise the odds of Jimmy escaping.
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Yup, I agree with that assessment. Especially since we already saw him get away and Better Call Saul could've just ended with leading directly into Breaking Bad without even looking into Gene.

The show sealed his fate the moment we got our first flashfoward.
 
Bob Odenkirk and Peter Gould were on Fresh Air last Monday and it's worth listening to (and not just because Terry Gross is such an amazing interviewer). Several things stood out to me.

I'm sure it's been mentioned in other interviews but this was the first time I heard that Odenkirk's heart attack occurred not just during episode eight, but specifically during the big scene when Lalo confronts Jimmy and Kim. The crazy part is Odenkirk didn't have a heartrate for eighteen minutes. That's insane. And the only reason he lived is because of Rosa Estrada administrating proper CPR right away and because she just happened to have an automated external defibrillator in her car, which she only had because she tried and failed to return it to a friend earlier that day. Talk about a wild set of variables working out just right. Odenkirk talked about how energetic he felt afterwards and was ready to get back to work right away, to the point that some people were a little weirded out by his such positive energy after such a scary event. They didn't go back to that scene right away but instead eased Odenkirk back in with the lighter material of episode ten, before returning to that headier, darker stuff.

Another thing that stood is how supportive Cinnabon has been about Gene's soul-sucking life as a general manager of a mall Cinnabon. I didn't know this but apparently right after the Breaking Bad episode when Saul made his prediction about where he would wound up, Cinnabon tweeted that they had a general manager position open in Omaha, Nebraska. Odenkirk got hands-on training for several hours to learn how to actually make the cinnamon rolls.

Lastly, both Odenkirk and Gould related stories about how they've held up at gunpoint for money and how both of those experiences have informed for their particular artistries for the show.
 
Oh wow there's a whole heap of interesting stuff there!

I guess Cinnabon thought:

A/ There's no such thing as bad publicity, and
B/ Gene's life overall is hollow, the job itself isn't the thing that's sucking his soul away, it's normal life in general (I mean Gene doesn't even seem to have any friends)
 
^Neither did Jimmy aside from Kim before they were an item. Jimmy never seemed to have some buddies around town.
 
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