Better Call Saul, the TV series
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Jimmy cares about other people, but not in a really respectful way. Kim told him "You don't save me, I save me", and yet he can't stop himself from saving her. He tainted her one greatest accomplishment without her permission. She went along because when it came to it she wasn't willing to give up her one chance to be successful. Even when Jimmy tries to help you, he's just really helping himself help you. His relationships with other people are always all about him.
Jimmy gets his comeuppance in Breaking Bad, but if he doesn't enable Walter, Walter peters out in season two. Jimmy bears some responsibility for everybody who died after he became his lawyer. Felony murder, legally and morally. As unlikable as Chuck acts, he never inflicts any harm outside of the professional realm.
Jimmy gets his comeuppance in Breaking Bad, but if he doesn't enable Walter, Walter peters out in season two. Jimmy bears some responsibility for everybody who died after he became his lawyer. Felony murder, legally and morally. As unlikable as Chuck acts, he never inflicts any harm outside of the professional realm.
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Fan-frigging-tastic episode!
Nobody has mentioned this - the truck driver Mike jacked did see his car!
Nobody has mentioned this - the truck driver Mike jacked did see his car!
The harm he does to Jimmy's self-esteem is outside the professional realm. Jimmy wasn't committing crimes when Chuck kept him from leaving the mail room at HHM after Jimmy got his law degree.
Chuck didn't stop Jimmy from being a lawyer, he stopped him from being one at his firm. Would you hire somebody for your law firm if you knew he had chronic inability to follow the rules and got his degree from a third rate correspondence school?
Being a jerk and making someone feel bad is a lesser damnation than being a criminal, stealing and ruining careers.
Being a jerk and making someone feel bad is a lesser damnation than being a criminal, stealing and ruining careers.
To be fair, after Jimmy went to the other firm, Chuck tried to scuttle his attempts at reaching out to potential Sandpiper clients, broadening their client base. Granted, Jimmy's methods were ethically questionable, but Chuck definitely wanted to dig into him in an effort to actively discredit him in he eyes of his new firm. Chuck didn't stop his agenda at HHM's front door.
I wouldn't say that. His brother made his lady friend launch--something Chuck couldn't do. He is brighter than Milton from Office Space--and will be heard--but is a man who thinks the universe should behave in a certain way.
We'd have him in the clockwork Nirvana of Mechanus, as Lawful with good tendancies.
It's Howard Hamlin that I want to see Mike put a bullet into.
It wasn't just ethically questionable, it was illegal, and if discovered by the defense it would ruin his own firm's multimillion dollar case.
Looking forward to the season two finale tonight (wow, that went by fast..), then it will be Mr. Robot and Halt and Catch Fire to get me through the summer.
Something tells me that Jimmy will be one big step closer to becoming Saul after this episode.
Something tells me that Jimmy will be one big step closer to becoming Saul after this episode.
Yeah... especially given what happened at the end of the episode.
Ok, so who left the note? Please let it be Gus!
Edit: Holy shit, just saw this on another site. The episode titles this season form an anagram!
F ifi
R ebecca
I nflatable
N ailed
G loves Off
S witch
B ali Ha'i
A marillo
C obbler
K lick
Edit: Holy shit, just saw this on another site. The episode titles this season form an anagram!
F ifi
R ebecca
I nflatable
N ailed
G loves Off
S witch
B ali Ha'i
A marillo
C obbler
K lick
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Part of me wanted it to be Mike that put Tio in the wheelchair, but then again I'm not really sure why Mike had this vendetta against Tio, wasn't everything made "right" between them after their sitdown?
As for Chuck recording Jimmy's self-incrimination without notice or consent, is that even legal in N.M.? Would the recording be allowed as evidence in any prosecution?
As for Chuck recording Jimmy's self-incrimination without notice or consent, is that even legal in N.M.? Would the recording be allowed as evidence in any prosecution?
I get the impression that Mike didn't like being strong-armed into doing Tio's bidding, and he REALLY didn't like how the cousins were ghosting him and his daughter's family. He sees something vile that should be eradicated. Now he's in it deep - he's got some blood on his hands for the death of the "good samaritan", having been the result of his truck heist. He's going to re-channel that blood onto Tio's doorstep for having gotten him involved in the first place, and for having actually pulled the trigger, which he really didn't need to do. So yeah, I'm almost 100% certain Mike is who puts Tio in his wheelchair.
Chuck is smart enough that if the recording weren't legal he'd know. Don't know about real life legality but it probably matters that he did it in his own property.
The note has to be Gus. Seems exactly his MO if he had identified Mike as a potential recruit.
I thought Tio was in the wheelchair due to a stroke.
The note has to be Gus. Seems exactly his MO if he had identified Mike as a potential recruit.
I thought Tio was in the wheelchair due to a stroke.
^^^ It was. In one scene where Mike is reconning them with binoculars, he sees Tio taking his meds. I don't think it is Mike's intention to give him a stroke specifically or directly, but I think the stroke would be as a result of the stress of things going wrong in Tio's world, attributed to Mike's shenanigans. A...fringe benefit...in addition to wrecking his business, which I think is the primary goal.
After what Chuck did when his mother died has completely eradicated any potential for sympathy for his side of things.
Looks like it was confirmed by Peter Gould as being legit. That's awesome.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04...creators-confirm-episode-title-hidden-message
Well how about that. I'd say that pretty much confirms Fring left the note. It's an acrostic, I believe.
I'm still not ready to write Chuck off as all bad, but he's pretty bad here. He seems to take it really hard that people just don't like him the way they do Jimmy, apparently including their mother. And the fact that Jimmy can use that natural advantage in unethical ways is just too much for Chuck.
Almost everything shown about Jimmy makes it look like he's a good-hearted guy. But I'm not yet sure that Jimmy's ability to con people doesn't extent to the audience.
I was sorry to see so little of Kim in the finale, but there was a lot to cover. Her storylines have been really engaging, though, which is really says something about Rhea Seehorn, holding her own among Odenkirk, Banks and McKean.
This season has been excellent, really taking its time to build the details of the story. Good for them holding back on how much Jimmy and Mike work together. It would be fun to watch but it will pay off better when they get closer to Breaking Bad. Those ten episodes flew by.