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Best Voyager Recurring Enemy

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I did a quick scan of the rest of this forum and couldn't see anything obvious, so I'm starting this thread ;)

Because of Voyager's nature of travelling through the Delta Quadrant, they came across a few recurring enemies, and as they left their space, they came across new ones.

Which was your favourite or least favourite? Which one was the biggest missed opportunity or which one was done to death?

Just a quick list of the ones I can think of offhand:
Kazon
Vidiians
Borg
Species 8472
Hirogen
Malon
Vaadwaur
Hierarchy

I always liked the Vidiians and the Hirogen. There were signs of a deeper culture to be explored, and both were horrific and needed to be feared for their own reasons. Neither were bound by honour, or ethics as such, and this gave them the edge that lot of other races don't always have.

The Kazon and Malon... while they take a lot of criticism, I think they were okay, but didn't really get the development they deserved, and so, I was never really convinced they posed a real threat (despite the Kazon actually crippling Voyager, boarding her and even stealing her at one point).

The Borg were way overused, to the point where I just didn't care, nor fear them by the time of Unimatrix Zero. Janeway starts picking fights with them in Dark Frontier, and then she is even willingly assimilated in Unimatrix Zero. Assimilation is the most horrific thing Trek ever gave us - the loss of your own self, and it became a case of "oh well, I'll do it because the Doctor can take out all the implants later".

8472 were intriguing, especially after Prey, and the fact that they fear the humans enough to try and act like them to infiltrate and destroy them. Janeway makes a speech and you never see them again which is a shame.

The Hierarchy were good, but they were only used for comic relief, and so they don't rate very highly with me.

And finally, the Vaadwaur. Voyager unwittingly lets loose the race that once owned the Delta Quadrant and opens Pandora's Box. They even threaten that they've not seen the last of them. And except for a brief glimpse in The Void, they're never mentioned again. It was a massive wasted opportunity and I feel hurt the series in its last two seasons as there was definite arc potential.

So that's my two pennies... I would've liked some more Vidiian and Hirogen stories, but I'm fairly happy with what we got. What about you?
 
I ultimately did buy the Kazon as a threat...they seemed to have little to offer beyond sheer, dogged persistence, but they had that in spades, so I bought it. I rather wish that they hadn't turned as cartoonishly evil and it had been more about them needing water and so forth that Voyager could provide and they just couldn't get. This might have introduced some complex moral shadings and Prime Directive issues, which I think were interesting in the pilot and a fundamental part of why the ship was there in the first place.

They definitely did get a few good episodes out of the Vidiians...8472 being defanged so severely (I'm all for the Trek spirit of ultimate friendship and understanding, but things were a bit abrupt), I might have to give it to the Vidiians.
 
As for the badies I'd say the Hirogen and Vidians for total lack of morality and I am intrigued by species 8472, you think they are harmful but then you realise deep down they are like you and I
 
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I did a quick scan of the rest of this forum and couldn't see anything obvious, so I'm starting this thread ;)...
I still like the Borg; they are still scarey. I always like seeing them, so I wouldn't agree they're overused or defanged. They are a force; you can survive them, and it only makes sense their weaknesses would be exploited. Indeed, the Borg count on it. As we well know, they adapt.
 
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Back to topic my favorite recurring enemy would have to be Seska. :evil:
 
For me, its a toss-up between the Hirogen and 8472. The latter were just awesome, the Hirogen were neat... but I would have liked them more if I hadn't seen the Predators (from Predator 1 & 2). Finally something that the Borg picked on that were just too tough- if (and my memory is sketchy) VOY or someone had been able to convince the 8472 that Borg was a threat all around, and for them to leave everyone else alone... and we'd be set! (RIP, finally, all the victims of the Borg).

On the other hand, for ones I didn't like, were kindof the Malon- with all their radiation they were trying to dump...
 
Back to topic my favorite recurring enemy would have to be Seska. :evil:

Ugggh, I cannot stand the Seska episodes - well actually her.

Maybe that should make her my #1 villain.

Although I thought the most fearsome villains since the Borg were the Hirogens.

Not to derail the thread - but the Borg when they were first introduced in TNG's "Q-Who" were scary.... I remember thinking this ain't old fashion TREK no more. :lol: I called my friend up and we talked about the episode for like two hours trying to figure out the Borg and what as going to happen.
 
BORG!

Regardless of what happens, ultimately, Voyager benefits from their encounters.
Ex:

Losing Kes AND jumping ahead x amount of light years ahead
Getting 7 of 9
Getting that future mobile-emitter Borg guy
Jacking a transwarp coil
Getting home

And the borg are scary indeed. They're the universe's zombies!
 
I liked the Borg and I don't think they were terribly over used. 8472 I feel are villains without motivaton. They meet the Borg and decide to blow up the whole galaxy, where is the logic in that? The Vaadwaur should have come back again. I always liked Dragon's Teeth and there should have been a sequel episode or two.
 
The Vidiians

They were well conceived, and you could really understand their struggle. Also, they were used just enough to make them interesting but not overused.
 
The Vidiians

They were well conceived, and you could really understand their struggle. Also, they were used just enough to make them interesting but not overused.

Yeah they were a good enemy and I'd have put the crew of the equinox as well! they turned being bad as well as they removed some of the sub routines of the Dr! That was kinda the same sort of evil as the vidians really :vulcan:
 
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