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Best Star Trek Ever
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People are definitely free to like different things. Smiley faces are awesome.
I haven't watched it in decades but you know what was an awesome show? Beast Wars.
The Transformers were all CGI dinosaurs. They beat up bad guys. The raptor switched sides a few times, and I think he had a redemption arc.
Should we have a serious discussion about the depth and awesomeness of its storylines, and praise the writers for their vision and skill?
Because if you seriously want to do that, I'm down for it, let's rock some Beast Wars discussion.
Or, more likely, should we just accept that the writers did the best they could, and while it was great juvenile entertainment it probably wouldn't hold up to critical examination?
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Amen. We just went through that during the Reboot Wars: "People who like the new movies only care about pew-pew and snazzy special effects. They aren't REAL Star Trek fans."
Maybe don't presume to read people's minds and tell them why they like things?
Wow - why to people always like to talk about Star Trek: Voyager in Star Trek: Discovery forums?
This thread suddenly just became a lot livelier.
Shots fired!
Because they think if they bitch about Voyager or any other Trek it will miraculously make Discovery look better than it is.Wow - why to people always like to talk about Star Trek: Voyager in Star Trek: Discovery forums?
It doesn't? I mean, I look at VOY and then at DISCO and I'm like, "Thank you for DISCO."
Shut up and take my money!
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That's what dual screens and streaming services are forYou look at them at the same time? Strange
It doesn't make DSC look better than it is...
But it does make it look better than a fair amount of Trek that came before.
Because it is.
Seriously though, do you feel you need to filter Discovery through a dislike of previous Trek to give it credibility? I wonder if that is a natural defence mechanism. Like if Discovery is all that, then surely there would be no need to piss on any other show because Discovery would be stand alone good, right?That's what dual screens and streaming services are for
Not at all. I did not enjoy VOY even from before DISCO, mostly because I watched it when it first broadcasted. My only frustration is that DISCO gets panned for doing things other shows did. To me, it's just bizarre, but that's my thing.
So, the reverse is true. If a person likes DISCO, just don't like. Don't say that this isn't how Starfleet officers "Should" act because of Janeway, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Garret, Riker, Spock, etc.
The set up with Discovery requires its placement in a timeline so I'm afraid some aspects of gauging how Starfleet was and how it fits, is what we have been asked to consider. Least with relevance to TOS. I rather think that is unavoidable made more so by TOS being the origin series in the franchise Discovery referenced in its marketing. What was Starfleet like in Discovery days? Was its values tainted by a war? Were its Officers good, heroic or not? Did it give birth to a better set of values? In that regard and admittedly we are in a blessed 'best star trek ever' thread, I sort get why some comparisons are made. I just wondered if there has been a disillusionment of past favourites.Not at all. I did not enjoy VOY even from before DISCO, mostly because I watched it when it first broadcasted. My only frustration is that DISCO gets panned for doing things other shows did. To me, it's just bizarre, but that's my thing.
So, the reverse is true. If a person likes DISCO, just don't like. Don't say that this isn't how Starfleet officers "Should" act because of Janeway, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Garret, Riker, Spock, etc.
I prefer not to have the comparisons made. That's my personal desire in order to approach things as they are in reality, not just my personal expectations. I'm not perfect at it, but that's a goal.The set up with Discovery requires its placement in a timeline so I'm afraid some aspects of gauging how Starfleet was and how it fits, is what we have been asked to consider. Least with relevance to TOS. I rather think that is unavoidable made more so by TOS being the origin series in the franchise Discovery referenced in its marketing. What was Starfleet like in Discovery days? Was its values tainted by a war? Were its Officers good, heroic or not? Did it give birth to a better set of values? In that regard and admittedly we are in a blessed 'best star trek ever' thread, I sort get why some comparisons are made. I just wondered if there has been a disillusionment of past favourites.
If the comparisons are made, I feel the need to defend DISCO, largely because I do admit my bias in that I think there is a bunch of unloving critics who use things like VOY, Orville, or whatnot to beat DISCO with.
If they want to keep bringing up crap shows to take a dump on DISCO then I have no problem calling their shows crap.
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