Best possible enemy for new series?

[All Seeing Eye]

I was thinking about a new Trek series and what kind of enemy would best suit it, i've always been fond of the Mirror Universe Terran Empire, ive always loved evil humans so it gave me the most fantastic idea for an enemy.
What species would make the perfect enemy of humanity? well Humans of course.
Think back to the Voyager episode 'the 47's' where those few humans were abducted from Earth and taken to the Delta Quadrant, now lets say aliens visited Earth way back when and abductant several thousand people and replanted them on the otherside of the Alpha Quadrant where they founded themselves an empire and developed a vast civilisation, these humans however went more the way of the Romulan/klingon Empires and Terran Empire of the Mirror Universe and have spread out from their homeworld conquering other worlds until eventually they meet the Federation in the late 25th century.
Turns out this Human Empire has been searching for earth for centuries and now they've found it they plan on conquering it.

Good eh?

 

[Borg451]

The 37's

 

[Michael]

I was thinking about a new Trek series and what kind of enemy would best suit it, i've always been fond of the Mirror Universe Terran Empire, ive always loved evil humans so it gave me the most fantastic idea for an enemy.
What species would make the perfect enemy of humanity? well Humans of course.
Think back to the Voyager episode 'the 47's' where those few humans were abducted from Earth and taken to the Delta Quadrant, now lets say aliens visited Earth way back when and abductant several thousand people and replanted them on the otherside of the Alpha Quadrant where they founded themselves an empire and developed a vast civilisation, these humans however went more the way of the Romulan/klingon Empires and Terran Empire of the Mirror Universe and have spread out from their homeworld conquering other worlds until eventually they meet the Federation in the late 25th century.
Turns out this Human Empire has been searching for earth for centuries and now they've found it they plan on conquering it.

Good eh?

Sounds like a very cool idea to me actually. It would be interesting to see how these humans have changed in comparison to us and what exactly their motives are.

 

[Roshi]

Best possible enemy for new series?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Here's a new riff on the Federation Civil War concept: if ENT had portrayed the 22nd C like I wanted them to - more bigoted, aggressive, militaristic and not the slightest bit naive or utopian - wouldn't they make the best antagonists for the Federation?

We've already seen a take on this concept with Khan and his merry band of Augments. But humans from a bit further in the future would work as well. Maybe a bit before Archer's time, when Earth is still a mess. They invade the 24th C and try to take over because their own time isn't worth bothering with.

Or, just go back to the Borg, but treat them with respect. When they assimilate someone, it's permanent, no go-backs allowed. They need to be capable of inspiring existential fear.

Or, just go back to the Dominion, but wiser now that they've had a chance to "test out" the Alpha Quadrant and learn its weaknesses. The AQ's main weaknesses are a lack of unity except when under fire, and in the case of the Federation specifically, a need to think they can be friends with anyone.

A truly clever Dominion would not act excessively aggressive. They would zero in on the Feds as the weak link in the chain and act very peaceful and trustworthy, feeding into the Fed need to think their olive branch methods work on everyone, even though the Dominion is an utterly alien culture, run by a hive-mind-type amoebic mass, with the rest of the effective population made up of clones engineered for the single goal of furthering the Founders' goals.

I've always thought the Founders are best thought of as a single individual capable of spinning off parts of itself in order to effect change in the external environment - those parts are more like tentacles than individual beings. And other than Vorta and Jems, the Dominion population doesn't seem to "count," having been pacified by an effective carrot/stick approach.

So the Dominion is basically just one "will" being projected by a quadrant-spanning infrastructure. And unlike the mindless Borg, this "will" is adaptable and smart. Since the Founders are extremely long-lived, if not immortal, this "will" also plans for a timescale far beyond what humans or other AQ humanoids are used to. That's just about the most fearsome antagonist I could imagine.

The Romulans, being suspicious and smart, and not inclined to overreach militarily like the Klingons, would be the strongest foes, so the Dominion goal would be to isolate them away from the rest of the AQ powers. Any quibbles that the Dominion is rearming and is insincere in their peaceful facade would be squelched as being harmful to the Feds' diplomatic efforts. The Romulans in particular would be screaming their heads' off, but you know how paranoid those jokers are...

Being smart, the Romulans would realize that the Dominion weakness is in the infrastructure, all those non-cloned citizens of far-flung worlds who are basically happy, being left alone, under Dominion protection, but still, that happiness is bought at the price of never being free to do anything the Founders would find objectionable. The Rommies would launch a subversion campaign which of course the Feds would blow their tops at, since that makes the AQ look like the aggressors.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Anyone remember the 'Enterprise' episode 'silent enemy' with that green ship that plagued them and they never showed their face and was very secretive? well I think that kind of introduction would be awesome for the 'offshoot human race'.

 

[Lynx]

I would like to see the Furies from the Invasion books as the next enemy. They are more scary than the Borg.

 

[amdmiami]

Wouldn't it be interesting if they created some sort of Xenomorph alien. That would bring Trek to a whole new dark level and it be turned into more of a horror show. I would love to see Trek get scary.

 

[James Bond]

Best possible enemy for new series?

The greatest Star Trek enemy of all time.

 

[ChristopherPike]

A bunch of orthodox religious zealots called "The Canonites".

They're due to start coming out of hybernation next May. Feasting on Trek's bright young things. Browbeating them into thinking Trek attained perfection in '99 and has been going to hell in a handcart ever since...

 

[cardinal biggles]

A bunch of orthodox religious zealots called "The Canonites".

They're due to start coming out of hybernation next May. Feasting on Trek's bright young things. Browbeating them into thinking Trek attained perfection in '99 and has been going to hell in a handcart ever since...

Okay, okay, that's enough.

 

[stonester1]

Nice Alt take on DS9, Temmis. I loved the way they did it (DS9 being my fav of the Treks), but that's an intriguing, creative alternate look, and would make the Founders truly ALIEN.

But would it be possible for one of these "tentacles" to become independent? Or would Odo be the deepest of the deep under cover sorts?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I would like to see the Furies from the Invasion books as the next enemy. They are more scary than the Borg.

I'm not familiar with them - what makes them a good enemy?

But would it be possible for one of these "tentacles" to become independent? Or would Odo be the deepest of the deep under cover sorts?

To explain Odo, I think the Founders' "tentacles" would have to be capable of gaining independent will - otherwise, it means Odo was playing a game the whole time, and that's too much of a retcon - but when they are reabsorbed into the Great Link, they lose their individuality. That would be a sad thing to do to a great character like Odo, but in the service of the bigger story, it's an acceptable sacrifice.

 

[Lynx]

^^
The Furies are evil, that makes them a good enemy.

And they will not compromise. Their aim is to conquer the galaxy and enslave the species living there.

According to the invasion stories, the Furies did rule our part the galaxy thousands of years ago, enslaving all species there. Our stories about demaons and such has their origins from that forgotten time. Some of the furies did look like devils, hence the common picture of the devil we do have today.

They used a special "terror beam" to keep their slaves in order. The terror beam made their slaves see and experience the worst fears imaginable and would do anything to make the Furies turn it off.

The Furies were finally driven away by an unknown species who attacked them. The enslaved races also revolted against the Furies at that time.

But their aim has always been to return and take over, once again enslaving the species in the Alpha Quadrant.

Spoiler: the Invasion books

According to the last book of the invasion series, some of the Furies had settled on a planet in the Delta Quadrant. They tried to create an artificial wormhole which would transport their entire planet, inhabited with 27 billion Furies to the Alpha Quadrant. From there, they would once again conquer the Alpha Quadsrant with use of theit terror nbeam plus more conventional weapons. They didn't have transporter technology though and their technology was a rude mix between older and newer stuff, including some special metal which was difficult to blast with phaser fire.

However, the starship Voyager succeded to stop the invasion. Thanks to an almost suicidal mission by B'Elanna Torres to the moon where the Furies kept their strange machinery which would create the wormhole, the Fury planet was sent in another direction.
But their main mission is to return one day...

 

[blaXXer]

How about the Breen? Yes, they featured heavily in the Dominion war (well, at least at the end) have a big military and have attempted what the klingons did not even attempt - attack earth. Think about it, they were the least decimated (major) species during the dominion war and they seem to have an agenda (we don't know which one, but still).
Plus, we have never seen them beneath their suits

All in all, ambitious, scary, mysterious and capable enough to bug the feds for a long time to come...

 

[HRHTheKING]

Humans would make the best enemy.

In a Federation civil war.

 

[Lynx]

Humans would make the best enemy.

In a Federation civil war.

I did toy with that idea for some fanfic story some years ago.

In that story, Janeway and her crew would be arrested when they return to Earth because the new military government which had come to power shortly after the Dominion War see them as a threat to the new order. However, the Voyager crew escapes with the help of some old friends and join a resistance movement led by Picard, Sisko and someother prominent Starfleet officers.

That conflict would bring up the issue of peace and democracy not taken for granted, that there will always be power-hungry persons who might try to seize power for their own benefit and that things like that can happen even in the 24th century. After all, there were some examples in TNG and DS9 of not so reliable Starfleet officers as well.

However, that idea of mine has been voted down on several occasions by other posters for being "not Star Trek". So I don't know, maybe some internal conflict in the Federation would ruin the premise of Star Trek.

 

[HRHTheKING]

Everyone has their own ideas as to what is or isn't Star Trek.

No official standards exist, so I don't see how a Federation in conflict wouldn't be Star Trek.

It's all about the issues being explored. If they are meaningful, then there's no problem with it.

 

[hellsgate]

Lynx: Go for it, I'd love to publish your "Voyager: Resistance" concept at "Star Trek: New Worlds". Just upload it to your own (Geocities, Angelfire, et al.) File Manager & e-mail me the URL so I can include it on the "S.T.: New Worlds" site.

I'd experiment with the Fury idea & bastardize it with the 37's.

Ages ago, the Skagaran Slavers (from ENT,) supplied The Fury with Human lab-rats, conducted experiments on Humanity that somehow went south & the Fury & their Skagaran flunkies were overthrown on Earth, but not before they took prisoners, in the hopes of perfecting their technology while escaping the Humans overthrowing their society.

But, in the throes of revolution, the Humans found a weakness in the Fury & their Skagaran flunkies and exploited it, but not before the Skagaran/Fury's prisoners realized they'd travelled too far from home to get back on their own, landed on the Fury (Skagaran?) slave-colony & seeded further resistance (a-la the Tenctonese / Newcomers from "Alien Nation") against their alien overlords until they won & a new Golden Era was achieved.

Realizing the Fury were scavengers & not entirely self-sufficient, the slaves were forced to commit genocide as the Fury's whole strength was in their numbers.

Unfortunately, the resistance destroyed too much of the technology they could've utilized to get home & had to wait until Voyager came by.

Here's the twist. The Briori - Barbaric, aggressive, xenophobic of all alien races regardless of their contributions, (now also equipped with 24th century technology by Voyager,) & living off the desire for revenge on non-Humans imprinted on the planetary psyche of the 37's by the Fury (& possibly the Skagarans,) who deposited them in the Delta Quadrant, who used them as lab-rats.

The Voth are featured in cameo appearances.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

TOS did fine without a big main enemy.