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B'elanna Torres pairing - Tom or Harry
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Some people just hate catsHit Spot?
But he's just an innocent cat? How could someone want to hit him?
Even cool cats like me?
Ummm.........no commentEven cool cats like me?
Oh, yes ... that. Just an attempt to skirt the whole Legal Drama premise of the "gay" gene discussion. That's all.Hit Spot?
But he's just an innocent cat? How could someone want to hit him?
Methinks most of the characters' roles in that episode were due to the writers only being able to use the regular cast members for their story--either due to some legal obligation, or a budget issue.
Think about it. Why would NEELIX be next in line for Security Chief after Tuvok? Even if the Year of Hell took out Ayala, Andrews, and Baxter, there had to be at least a few security officers who survived who'd be in line before the kitchen hedgehog!
And of all people on board, why in the world would Tom and Kes choose.... each other? Tom always liked feisty women (Rain Robinson, Alice, Stadi...) Tom and Kes just have nothing at all in common; the fact that Kes is "adventurous" might be something, if she actually ever lived up to that title past "Caretaker." What about one of the Delaney twins? What about Mariah Henley, who was a troubled malcontent once like Tom? As for Kes, why was *she* never paired with Harry Kim? Their personalities were a lot more similar than hers and Toms or hers and Neelix's.
Of all men onboard for Linnis to end up with, why her father's best friend? Seriously?
The answer is clear. They wanted or needed to stick with the main characters. This is one case where the "main characters do everything" cliche is really evident, and weakens the episode. "Before and After" is great, but it would've been so much better without the bizarre treatment of the characters.
WarpTenLizard, yours is The Voice of Reason!
Actually why wouldn't Neelix be suitable for security? He had a life before working in Voyager's galley. He spent time in engineering on a freighter, worked in a mining colony, years on garbage vessel, and had his own cargo ship. He mixed with the harder element of life and had 'street' smarts. For the first part of Voyager's journey Neelix's knowledge had him on the bridge giving advice. He was quite capable of negotiating and bluffing where necessary.
Security would be something else he would be more than able to fill in for.
Security would be something else he would be more than able to fill in for.
Now that's something I don't hear often... lol.
I can see Neelix being fit for security yes. But I question how he somehow passed all of Tuvok's security officers in rank, unless said officers were mostly wiped out.
Enlisted crewmen, possibly 3/4's of Voyager's crew, are not officers and are not given command over subordinates, unless something has gone horribly wrong.
The most highest enlisted rank is still subordinate to an Ensign one day out of the Academy.
From watching Voyager, over and over again, I do not think that Berman knew the difference between Enlisted and Officer, and no one was ever brave enough to Emperor's-new-clothes him.
The most highest enlisted rank is still subordinate to an Ensign one day out of the Academy.
From watching Voyager, over and over again, I do not think that Berman knew the difference between Enlisted and Officer, and no one was ever brave enough to Emperor's-new-clothes him.
Warptenlizard was asking how Neelix, a random stranger with no rank, got to be second in command of security in the year of hell Timeline.
150ish people on board that ship.
Most of them are enlisted, or should be enlisted.
Say in Security, that there are 5 officers (including Tuvok), in command of 40 enlisted crewmen, right? So that means in the Year of Hell timeline where Neelix is Tuvok's second, Neelix didn't rise to the top past 44 other people with Starfleet educations, or close to, he only had to be a better officer than 4 other dudes, most of who had probably been Murdered in Janeway's spat with the Krenim Imperium, or transferred laterally/promoted to fill up other bloody vacancies.
The secret to Neelix's success is not so amazing.
150ish people on board that ship.
Most of them are enlisted, or should be enlisted.
Say in Security, that there are 5 officers (including Tuvok), in command of 40 enlisted crewmen, right? So that means in the Year of Hell timeline where Neelix is Tuvok's second, Neelix didn't rise to the top past 44 other people with Starfleet educations, or close to, he only had to be a better officer than 4 other dudes, most of who had probably been Murdered in Janeway's spat with the Krenim Imperium, or transferred laterally/promoted to fill up other bloody vacancies.
The secret to Neelix's success is not so amazing.
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I suppose. I think department 'heads' are not always the same as chain of command rank. Seven held no rank to supplant others who may have been enlisted as Starfleet crew, yet she was head of astrometrics, (I guess with Harry).
Neelix in Living Witness is portrayed in uniform working at Tactical. I know that is mirror type universe 'Neelix, but on Voyager being Starfleet didn't guarantee that the likes of a Neelix, Kes, Seven even the Doctor didn't take priority over an enlisted nobody (or an officer).
Neelix in Living Witness is portrayed in uniform working at Tactical. I know that is mirror type universe 'Neelix, but on Voyager being Starfleet didn't guarantee that the likes of a Neelix, Kes, Seven even the Doctor didn't take priority over an enlisted nobody (or an officer).
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Harry is too beta for B'elana.
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