Being fat 'is as bad as smoking'

[Amaris]

It was only 1 girl, catholic school girl outfit and not cheerleader, I wasn't 80, and I honestly can't remember what music was playing, otherwise...

Well, that's one more girl than me, and I'm 29 in March, so you're off to a good start.



J.

Ouch.

At least you have good taste in partying though.

Yep. And if I can move that 80th birthday date up a little, say 30th, then that would be even better.

Plus Edgar Winter wouldn't have to resurrect himself to play there.

J.

 

[Emher]

Leave it to us Swedes to discover something fucking obvious

And no, it's not as bad as smoking. With overweight you only destory your won body, not everyone around you as well.

 

[JonathonWally]

Well, that's one more girl than me, and I'm 29 in March, so you're off to a good start.



J.

Ouch.

At least you have good taste in partying though.

Yep. And if I can move that 80th birthday date up a little, say 30th, then that would be even better.

Plus Edgar Winter wouldn't have to resurrect himself to play there.

J.

While I hate to critique your excellent taste, I must say that at 80 years old, "Don't Fear The Reaper" would be a better choice in song.

 

[Amaris]

Ouch.

At least you have good taste in partying though.

Yep. And if I can move that 80th birthday date up a little, say 30th, then that would be even better.

Plus Edgar Winter wouldn't have to resurrect himself to play there.

J.

While I hate to critique your excellent taste, I must say that at 80 years old, "Don't Fear The Reaper" would be a better choice in song.

Good point.

J.

 

[FordSVT]

On my 80th birthday, I'm going to celebrate. I'll have a beer in one hand, a cigarette in the other, having sex with a lot of women all at once, and snorting coke off of the stomachs of cheerleaders while the Edgar Winter group plays "Frankenstein" in the background.

J.

If you're going to try that at 80, you'd better start saving your money now.

 

[Amaris]

On my 80th birthday, I'm going to celebrate. I'll have a beer in one hand, a cigarette in the other, having sex with a lot of women all at once, and snorting coke off of the stomachs of cheerleaders while the Edgar Winter group plays "Frankenstein" in the background.

J.

If you're going to try that at 80, you'd better start saving your money now.

That's one of those kinks in the plan I've been working on.

J.

 

[Rii]

So now that we have stated scientific fact that fatness is unhealthy, is this still going to be closed?

Not unless you ask how smokers have sex.

 

[RoJoHen]

^Only fat smokers. Skinny smokers have sex just fine.

 

[JonathonWally]

So now that we have stated scientific fact that fatness is unhealthy, is this still going to be closed?

Not unless you ask how smokers have sex.

Probably a lot of heavy breathing involved.....

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

I think it's a huge double standard that people demonize smoking and feel free to tell smokers about how bad their habits are, yet are pretty tight-lipped around obese people

 

[Emher]

^Being overweight only cause damage to one person. Smoking is proven to be VERY dangerous in secon-hand.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

^Being overweight only cause damage to one person. Smoking is proven to be VERY dangerous in secon-hand.

"proven" and "VERY" are debatable. It is extremely difficult to measure the effects of 2nd hand smoke, considering the nature of such a study and the difficulty in controlling unknown parameters.


also,
http://popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/08/can-a-virus-mak.html

 

[Emher]

Are you seriously trying to tell me that the chainsmoker standing next to me at the bus stop is causing less damage to me then the 300 pound guy eating a cheeseburger on the other side of me?

 

[Gertch]

Of course we could always shame people waiting for the bus instead of walking. (You can click the images to see it's actually displaying her weight)

 

[DeafPoet]

And no, it's not as bad as smoking. With overweight you only destory your won body, not everyone around you as well.

I smoke but I have other ways to destroy the people around me too. They should have known what they were getting into

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

Are you seriously trying to tell me that the chainsmoker standing next to me at the bus stop is causing less damage to me then the 300 pound guy eating a cheeseburger on the other side of me?

Consider this: Let's say a chain smoker, someone who smokes 10 cigarettes a day, has a fairly good chance of getting lung cancer after a lifetime of smoking. first, there is a filter in the actual cigarette. What gets past the filter, some tar and nicotine, can accumulate in the lungs. The largest bits become lodged in the alveoli and cannot be breathed out, acting as carcinogens. the nicotine also represses the action of the cilia in your windpipe from removing phlem/smoke gunk. and this is for a smoker, who takes a concentrated, direct drag from the cigarette.

When he breathes the smoke back out, the biggest pieces of crap are still in his lungs. Not only that, but it is already vastly dispersed in the air, reducing the concentration at least 3 fold. Also, you're not inhaling enough nicotine to disturb the cilia's removal action. So an occasional whiff of a portion of this dispersed cloud of 2nd-hand smoke (lets say 2 whiffs every 3 days), even over a lifetime, obviously results in debatable health effects that become very difficult to relate to any hardcore evidence, esp considering everyone's exposure to 2nd-hand smoke vastly differs

 

[RoJoHen]

So an occasional whiff of a portion of this dispersed cloud of 2nd-hand smoke (lets say 2 whiffs every 3 days), even over a lifetime, obviously results in debatable health effects that become very difficult to relate to any hardcore evidence, esp considering everyone's exposure to 2nd-hand smoke vastly differs

I'd argue that inhaling smoke of any kind, whether 2nd-hand cigarette smoke or smoke from a bonfire, is bad for you. How bad, I don't know. But it's definitely worse than inhaling no smoke at all.

 

[Venardhi]

I'd disagree that there is no "second-hand fat." If I really enjoy bacon and steak and potatoes for dinner twice a week, and feed my kids that same meal (demanding that they clean their plate of course, because there are starving kids in Africa!) then the chances of them being overweight are increased by no fault of their own. This is one example, but not the only one I can think of. 18 years of unhealthy eating is probably nearly as bad as 18 years of living in a smoking household.

And davidant32, 10 cigarettes a day is hardly a chain smoker.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

How many cigarettes/day does a chain smoker smoke?

 

[Gertch]

How bad, I don't know. But it's definitely worse than inhaling no smoke at all.

A 39 year study using 36,000 people found that there is little or no effects from second hand smoke.