Then you shouldn't have said anything and worried about your own performance and not the plight of your co-workers.
Being edged towards the door at my job...
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Then you shouldn't have said anything and worried about your own performance and not the plight of your co-workers.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
Thing was, it affected me as well, i was standing up as a Jimmy Hoffa type, I was standing up for myself but the same mistreatment isbeing applied to everyone.
I heard on NPR the other day that one insurance company is participating in job fairs and offering outside "contracting" jobs that operate on 100% commission. If that's the future of insurance then I would certainly get out of the racket while I could.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
I work on the inside cog of the industry, adjuticating claims. We're a legal insurance company and we're up to our eyeballs in business, people needing attorneys for bankruptcies and forelcosure defense.
Huh? Lots of agents work for many different insurance companies, at one time, purely on commission. This is nothing new.
john titor
Captain
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If that's the case then if I were you I'd put my head down so that I could avoid the job fairs I just described. I get the feeling that folks like me and you don't really understand how tough it is out there right now.
The angle on the story is that these types of job offerings are the only kinds at job fairs nowadays. It's either commission only, franchises (sell at home), or technical schools, which aren't even employers. If commission-only is prevalant in the insurance industry then, in this economy, I feel sorry for the agents.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
Games have started now. Emails are going unanswered. I have it set up for a read receipt in Outlook no full when the email is read. 3 days later, no response. This morning I locked eyes with the director, said good morning. she turnedher head, looked past me and kept walking without so much as a grunt. I smiled. Went back to my desk and wrote it down, along with printing out the emails that were sent with no response received.
As Weyoun said, "I like games."
As Weyoun said, "I like games."
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This comment is not intended to suggest anything about you Gram, just an observation of your situation in general. Nothing more.
One has to wonder why an employer would start treating someone like how you are being treated and create such a hostile atmosphere when there are shall we say.... less than stable people out there who may want some payback when it's all over.
It happens. I actually get to go to a violence in the workplace seminar at my job next week.
One has to wonder why an employer would start treating someone like how you are being treated and create such a hostile atmosphere when there are shall we say.... less than stable people out there who may want some payback when it's all over.
It happens. I actually get to go to a violence in the workplace seminar at my job next week.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
i see what you mean. i'm not gonna shoot up the place or anyting, but the hostility doesn't make sense
The hostility is an effort to get you to quit rather than having to terminate you.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
and i hate playing in to it. it's almost better to be the absolute model employee and not give them the satisfcation, but i'd be cutting off my nose to spite my face. still working my ass of and miserable in a hostile environment.
I hate it when employers do this. Sadly I was part of this tactic once upon a time before I realized what they were doing.
I don't know how it is in other states, but in my state if you quit, you can't get unemployment benefits. If they lay you off or terminate you, you can apply for them and the employer either pays for it or needs to go through the hassle of justifying why they won't pay unemployment which you can then go in and present your case as to why you should receive benefits.
My wife was once employed by a company that finally gave up on getting her to leave and fired her on made up reasons. They then denied her unemployment benefits. We were going to fight it, but she found a new job so we didn't have to.
Keep those records, as much as you can and take them off site at the end of the day so they won't find it. If they fire you and deny unemployment, you'll have proof you did nothing wrong and they'll have to pay, which will make them even more happy with you.
This is exactly why employers do it. If they can make you quit, no unemployment. Some states actually have to pay higher unemployment insurance taxes if they have layoffs or otherwise terminate people. So, it is in their interest to get you to quit.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
we've entered technicality land now. I'm being called out now because i told a client I would be emailing him paperwork that would explain how his coverage worked and containt the information to provide to his attorney to get his legal matter started.
I was scored a zero on the quality check because I quote: "It is notjust "informatino" it is a comprehensive packet of information that gives them attorneys names, coverage confirmation for the matter in question."
I just wrote several 500+ emails, knowing i need this stuff in writing, and it's obvious they just want to get rid of me and are sick of me.
I was scored a zero on the quality check because I quote: "It is notjust "informatino" it is a comprehensive packet of information that gives them attorneys names, coverage confirmation for the matter in question."
I just wrote several 500+ emails, knowing i need this stuff in writing, and it's obvious they just want to get rid of me and are sick of me.
Well, pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't going to get you anything. If what you're doing is bothering them that much, then step it up---call them out on the BS and demand an explanation.
And step up the job search as well.
You might consider subtly letting them know that you're documenting all this as well. I'm not an expert, but sometimes just letting the other guy know you're holding a strong hand can make him fold.
And step up the job search as well.
You might consider subtly letting them know that you're documenting all this as well. I'm not an expert, but sometimes just letting the other guy know you're holding a strong hand can make him fold.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
Or lash out on trumped up charges. Local economy's not strong enough for me to be able to be that determined. I'm not ignoring it, and the fact that I'm only commuincating my email is my way of documenting the conversation. I've bumped it up three levels so far and the last was direct communication with the departments director. She's giving me the "use it as a teaching moment' routine, however one cannot be scored 98% on a quality assessment then have it redcued to zero because a sentence was "I'm sending you information you need to proceed" instead of "I"m sendin you a comprehensive packet of information." That's upper level BS trying to make the documents they've created sound more important than a fucking list with the names of attorneys on it.
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