He sold the extra bits as "genuine batsuit fragments" on ebay.
Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1
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He sold the extra bits as "genuine batsuit fragments" on ebay.
I think that's the point--they are reserving the "Where's Bruce?" / "What happened to the business" for a later date--an episode that might shake things up for those left behind. Ffor the record, I'm not hinting a full-on appearance from Bruce Wayne, but I feel all things Wayne will be addressed, with something tied to a darker family problem.
Luke might have asked his dad?
Luke is either a complete fuck up, who failed, or this is some pay his dues bullshit Lucius is pushing his kid through before luke is allowed a corner office.
Or Bruce could have anticipated that someone was going to show up and there's 15 Batsuits out the back cut to the specific specifications of whoever turned up.
Which makes Luke a conman, an actor, or a stage magician, or all three, to roll with it depending on which character broke into the Batcave.
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Like I said, YMMV. I didn't expect them to say where Bruce was, but, I think a line about what happened to Wayne Enterprises would, for me, properly contextualize where Gotham is at the moment Kate arrives back in the city and why they need a hero, and not Kate just needing a place to channel her training. City needs her just as much as she needs the Batwoman role.
For me, the circumstances of Gotham were woefully generic in the pilot.
The Crows are an elite 8 person squad?
Sure, they have machine guns, but 10 soldiers vs a city is practically the same as a one man war on crime.
Where's my updated sexy Chief O'Hara?
Sure, they have machine guns, but 10 soldiers vs a city is practically the same as a one man war on crime.
Where's my updated sexy Chief O'Hara?
2 episodes in, and enjoying it more than I thought I might but here's some general thoughts.
Ruby Rose is... much better than I thought she was going to be after Elseworlds. I still wouldn't say she's good per se, but it's the Arrowverse and I don't need much. She's the weakest of the leads so far, but she's growing on me. I *do* wish they'd cast somebody that actually had the long, flaming red hair though (or gave her a wig modelled on Karen Gillan), because while it's an iconic part of Batwoman's look, the "only for the suit" wig totally doesn't work for me. Looking forward to the bright red bat symbol though.
I really, really, really hope we don't get a season-long plotline of "Kate is going to break up Sophie's marriage to show that she'd be happier with her instead." Kate needs to meet Sara Lance, is basically what I'm saying.
As fascinating as the situation with Alice is, they really didn't hold back on showing what a deranged piece of work she is in this last episode with those innocent people and the aftermath. The actress is totally knocking it out of the park though, and I'm hooked by her screentime.
Put me down in the camp of "a line in the Pilot about what happened to Wayne Enterprises would have gone a long way to help sell me on why it's abandoned and shuttered despite its size and reach."
The mood, the music, the general vibe of the show is fantastic, and Gotham so far really does feel like what Oliver spent years trying to keep Starling/Star City from turning into. I know Arrow's supposed to get its own spinoff, but this feels like the actual successor to it.
Ruby Rose is... much better than I thought she was going to be after Elseworlds. I still wouldn't say she's good per se, but it's the Arrowverse and I don't need much. She's the weakest of the leads so far, but she's growing on me. I *do* wish they'd cast somebody that actually had the long, flaming red hair though (or gave her a wig modelled on Karen Gillan), because while it's an iconic part of Batwoman's look, the "only for the suit" wig totally doesn't work for me. Looking forward to the bright red bat symbol though.
I really, really, really hope we don't get a season-long plotline of "Kate is going to break up Sophie's marriage to show that she'd be happier with her instead." Kate needs to meet Sara Lance, is basically what I'm saying.
As fascinating as the situation with Alice is, they really didn't hold back on showing what a deranged piece of work she is in this last episode with those innocent people and the aftermath. The actress is totally knocking it out of the park though, and I'm hooked by her screentime.
Put me down in the camp of "a line in the Pilot about what happened to Wayne Enterprises would have gone a long way to help sell me on why it's abandoned and shuttered despite its size and reach."
The mood, the music, the general vibe of the show is fantastic, and Gotham so far really does feel like what Oliver spent years trying to keep Starling/Star City from turning into. I know Arrow's supposed to get its own spinoff, but this feels like the actual successor to it.
Its still early, and like the character, Rose has to get used to the role, or trying to find her way.
..and it would make Kate appear to be an uncaring, immoral person if she has no issues breaking up a marriage. That's not romantic, cute, honorable or justified in any way, and would soil the character going forward.
Yes--and as a murderer/terrorist, with a worldview that cannot be explained away by childhood trauma, or anything else, the drama will--or should come--when Kate has to stop thinking Alice is worth redemption and decides to take on that group for a "once and for all" outcome. This should not happen in a single season, but carefully build that while the series introduces new villains.
Still not sold on Rose, but it's her first lead role AFAIK and it took the others a little while to really grow into it too, so there's hope yet.
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Having Kate ride down the street in the batsuit felt conspicuous enough in a modern, well lit city street, but driving right up to Wayne tower? That just feels sloppy. What would have been cooler is if there's some old forgotten, 19th century pneumatic transit system tunnels running throughout the city, and Bruce has had hidden entrances and satellite caves built into them all over the city so he (and Kate) can get around and even disappear without being so damned conspicuous.
So Wonder Woman and Robin are/were a thing on Earth-1 now? Neat. But where the hell is Earth-1 Clark?
Alice continues to be the most interesting part of this show, though they get through the mystery of who she is so fast it leaves me wondering where the show is going with this.
Not surprised that there's a overarching plot about corruption in the city and the police. Because...well, it's Gotham!
What's the deal with Luke exactly? I mean he's able to remake the suit, but has no clue how to use any of the equipment? Am I the only one that feels this is somewhat inconsistent? I mean he's supposed to be the show's GitC, right? Either he can do tech stuff or he can't.
Did I forget a detail, or has anything been mentioned about the Gordons; Jim or Barb? Between the Robin namedrop and the Oracle nod in Arrow a few seasons back, I suspect whatever this continuity's version of 'Death in the Family' and/or 'Killing Joke' is has already happened. But if so, where's Jim? Where's Oracle?
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Having Kate ride down the street in the batsuit felt conspicuous enough in a modern, well lit city street, but driving right up to Wayne tower? That just feels sloppy. What would have been cooler is if there's some old forgotten, 19th century pneumatic transit system tunnels running throughout the city, and Bruce has had hidden entrances and satellite caves built into them all over the city so he (and Kate) can get around and even disappear without being so damned conspicuous.
So Wonder Woman and Robin are/were a thing on Earth-1 now? Neat. But where the hell is Earth-1 Clark?
Alice continues to be the most interesting part of this show, though they get through the mystery of who she is so fast it leaves me wondering where the show is going with this.
Not surprised that there's a overarching plot about corruption in the city and the police. Because...well, it's Gotham!
What's the deal with Luke exactly? I mean he's able to remake the suit, but has no clue how to use any of the equipment? Am I the only one that feels this is somewhat inconsistent? I mean he's supposed to be the show's GitC, right? Either he can do tech stuff or he can't.
Did I forget a detail, or has anything been mentioned about the Gordons; Jim or Barb? Between the Robin namedrop and the Oracle nod in Arrow a few seasons back, I suspect whatever this continuity's version of 'Death in the Family' and/or 'Killing Joke' is has already happened. But if so, where's Jim? Where's Oracle?
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Wayne Tech installed the cities cctv and traffic cameras.
Less of a back door and more of an even larger second front door.
It's his first attempt at Brothe Eye tech.
UM...
Is OMAC a Bruce Wayne Clone?
Less of a back door and more of an even larger second front door.
It's his first attempt at Brothe Eye tech.
UM...
Is OMAC a Bruce Wayne Clone?
But that's the way it's done in the comics -- Kate has short hair and wears a bright red wig incorporated into her cowl. And it's a brilliant idea. The wig makes for a great disguise, because it distracts from the features that could be recognized as Kate's, and it lets Kate change her hair all she wants without risking anyone noticing Batwoman's hair changing the same way (I'm looking at you, Kara "Bangs" Danvers). Plus, if bad guys pull on the wig during a fight, or if it gets caught in something, that won't hurt her or restrain her, since it's just a wig.
Besides, it worked for Yvonne Craig's Batgirl.
Kate needs to meet Sara Lance, is basically what I'm saying.
Works for me...
Robin--considering the series--might be an existing person in that universe, but Wonder Woman could be a loose, pop-cultural reference.
Good observation; the suit--with all of its tech is no less complicated to manufacture, modify, understand or use than the rest of Batman's gadgets, so if he's skilled enough to gain what appeared to be a rudimentary understanding of the Bat-suit's tech, he should have some insight about the how and why of the weapons.
Well we know Amazons and Themyscira exist on Earth-1, so it'd be a pretty big coincidence...
Yeah, I've got to agree about the suit thing with Luke, that does feel like a bit of an inconsistency.
I can't really see them having Kate go out of her way to break up the marriage, I think it's going to be more of Sophie growing closer to Kate again, and then reaching a point where she has to decide between her or her husband. The best way to go about that kind of a story without turning Kate making look would be to make Sophie the driving force behind everything, rather than Kate.I really, really, really hope we don't get a season-long plotline of "Kate is going to break up Sophie's marriage to show that she'd be happier with her instead." Kate needs to meet Sara Lance, is basically what I'm saying.
I think if Sophie were clearly happy in her marriage, Kate would respect and support that. But instead, it seems that Sophie is just settling, continuing to live a lie and deny her true self. I think Kate just wants Sophie to accept herself and stop making herself unhappy trying to please people who don't accept her right to exist.
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The Dark Knight has the Batcave under Wayne Tower, and many of the 1970's comics have the Batcave under the Wayne Foundation, as mentioned before.
So, who's really the bad guy/gal here? Who else really stole the ruby gem knife from Kate? Who's really trying to kill Alice with the bridge bomb? Who possibly slit the throats of the couple living in Alice's old house setting her up for a frame job?
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK. SAME BAT-TIME, SAME BAT-CHANNEL.
What? Kate's mother-in-law?
I think it's time to start a Kyssa ship.