I've seen articles that mention her being bi. The phrase full lesbian seems odd though. You're either a lesbian or you're not, you can't be half lesbian.
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Hence why I put it in quotation marks.
Just out of curiosity: what is it with DC and 'Alice in Wonderland' themed villains anyway? The Mad Hatter, Tweedledum & Tweedledee, Cheshire, White Rabbit and of course Alice. Is it just because it's public domain IP or is there some more substantial connection I'm missing?
Side note: does the Red Queen/Black King stuff from Checkmate count, or is that all purely chess themed?
Side note: does the Red Queen/Black King stuff from Checkmate count, or is that all purely chess themed?
People should really not be shocked. People think the whole Edgelord stuff went away. It didn't. It's just different than when my generation was young. In the 90's it was more about not wanting to be part of the system and sort of making fun of everything. Today it's being politically outraged and once again sticking it to the system. Hating the system is pretty much the common thread with all young people in ever generation. Still this show is built for a younger audience so people should be use to that by now. It is a CW show so what were they expecting? If your adult you will most likely have many eye roll moments that are their to appeal to youngsters but it still can be a fun show if well written.
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"I was reading Batman comics when your grandfather was in diapers!"
"In my day if we wanted to read a comic book we had to work down mill for twenty five hours a day week in-week out, and then when we got home we had to wake up at ten o'clock, half an hour before we went to bed while a hundred and twenty six of us would share half of one page of 'Challengers of the Unknown' that was printed on the back of a soggy brown paper bag with no coloured ink, or paper, and then our dad would thrash us to death with a Superman shampoo bottle , then dance on our graves singing 'I Believe I Can Fly'."
Here's an interesting Tor.com article adding a new layer of insight to the significance of Kate's choice to present Batwoman as overtly feminine:
https://www.tor.com/2019/05/20/the-...ns-feminine-costuming-choices/#comment-806443
https://www.tor.com/2019/05/20/the-...ns-feminine-costuming-choices/#comment-806443
^ ugh, I know I’m not the most enlightened guy but that doesn’t sound very empowering
Did you read the whole article? It explains more of the context. And it's by an author who has firsthand understanding of the non-binary and queer identity issues involved.
Empowerment is about taking control of your own life. A lot of things that started out as derogatory or restrictive have been taken control of by the affected groups and turned into positives, e.g. the very words "gay" (which used to mean licentious and sexually immoral) and "queer" (which meant strange or suspicious).
Besides, as the article explains, a lot of gender presentation is performative, as much for men as for women and everyone in between. It's just a matter of what choices of performance and presentation you make, and for what reasons. And of course a superhero with a secret identity has good reason to adopt a hero persona different from their everyday persona.
(Which is something Supergirl never got the hang of. When I saw Melissa Benoist as Red Daughter with the black wig and heavier makeup and different persona, she was unrecognizable. Maybe Kara should've done more to differentiate her look from Supergirl's from the start.)
I saw the teaser in full. People can think of it as they wish. The whole presentation of the teaser is trite and cliche, from color palette to by-the-numbers setup, right down to chalkboard scratching muzak. At least until the next big template is discovered. But it turns laughable as the style wants one to not notice the substance, which a lot of detractors took the obligatory 12.7 nanoseconds to notice and point out what's truly obvious on their YouTube sites. Alteori was definitely the most offended and insulted... And she is one of many making the same complaint, to the point it doesn't seem all that frivolous. But keep in mind it's a teaser, designed to attract attention.
What's also obvious: The actual show can easily be very different in tone.
And to be frank, that new villain - this "Alice" - seems compelling in the clips and dialogue shown and acted. Any good show needs a perfect villain and the acting proves she could carry the whole show if she had. Good villains and actors playing them are not a dime per dozen.
Along with what Patterson might bring to The Batman and the new format that side is taking (murder mystery, which is closer to the original comics if I recall correctly), are both enough for me to tune in and I've not cared about the Bat franchise since 1997. And it's nice that Batwoman is also staying true to her origins in the comics. (I don't care if she's straight or gay or bi or anything else, not until she puts her profile in a personals ad and starts looking for companionship of whatever sort nobody's going to care about unless they want it.)
But if today's and tomorrow's entertainment is going to be segregated for only branded audience groups whereas anyone who complains is by default somehow either some form of "___ist" and/or "____ic", which seems odd...
...or where the show "is not made for (them), haruumph!", take a peek at the following at the 1:09 mark onward and note this was recorded a couple of years ago:
Is he right or is he wrong, why or why not? Is it always about absolutes? (Hint: How many over the age of 18 will want to sit through The Boo-Bahs? In short, nothing's so 0 or 1...)
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That's an interesting take. I'm not sure that's what the show is actually going for, but it makes sense.
and for some reason will be moving from Gotham to the swamp....
FYI: The new "Gay Pride" themed issue of ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY features a nice interview with Ruby Rose in which, among other things, she talks about how much Xena and Gabrielle meant to her when she was growing up. It's part of a roundtable discussion that also includes Wilson Cruz from STAR TREK: DISCOVERY.
Haven't seen Entertainment Weekly Magazine , but there's a good hour long panel from EW with Cruz, Ruby Rose, Anderson Cooper, Neil Patrick Harris, Melissa Etheridge and Janet Mock on the TrekToday website.
https://www.trektoday.com/content/2019/06/cruz-and-other-lgbtq-celebrities-on-being-gay/
The part I found interesting was Ruby Rose's comments about people in her early years in the entertainment business suggested she should come out as a bisexual, she laughed at the idea saying she wouldn't even know how to pretend to be that after coming out as a lesbian since the age of 12.
https://www.trektoday.com/content/2019/06/cruz-and-other-lgbtq-celebrities-on-being-gay/
The part I found interesting was Ruby Rose's comments about people in her early years in the entertainment business suggested she should come out as a bisexual, she laughed at the idea saying she wouldn't even know how to pretend to be that after coming out as a lesbian since the age of 12.
