Again, given that Batwoman's logo has always been established as red on black, what other color could it be? The car matches the driver. That's obviously the intent, whatever else it might remind you of.
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Again, given that Batwoman's logo has always been established as red on black, what other color could it be? The car matches the driver. That's obviously the intent, whatever else it might remind you of.
Who is arguing its color?
Isn't that the whole point? Lots of comics Batmobiles have had the logo in black, blue, or black and yellow. Only the Barris Batmobile had it in red before this. And you yourself specified the red trim in the post I quoted.
But my point is that the logo style and color on Batwoman's car are obviously based on the logo style and color of Batwoman's costume. There is a direct and obvious line of influence between the character and the car, and thus by Occam's Razor there's no need to postulate any external influence beyond that.
What I've been trying to say is that I'm opposed to having the logo (any logo) on the car. The red trim and suggestion of a fin seem to point to the Barris batmobile being an inspiration as is having the logo on the car as it does (66 on the doors, here on the hood). I just think it's too toyetic and goofy (in my opinion!) for the style and presentation this show has had.
I don't care about the design of the actual logo itself just its presence on the vehicle.
I don't care about the design of the actual logo itself just its presence on the vehicle.
^ But, but,... how else can the audience know it's the Batmobile, if there is no Bat-logo on it?!? 
I don't see why. There are decades of comics precedent for it. And come on, when has Batman not been all about the branding?
And now you're contradicting your previous claim that you weren't arguing about the color.
And tons of Batmobiles have had fins. That goes back to the '40s -- see the site I linked to earlier. If the only precedent you can think of is the Barris, that just proves you lack information about other versions. The Barris was following the precedent of the comics in using fins and the bat logo. It did not originate them. The only specific thing that links that car to this car is the red-and-black scheme, and as I keep telling you, that is obviously based on Batwoman herself.
It's not about whether you "care." It's about the intent of the designers. It is Batwoman's logo design and color, in Batwoman's show, on a vehicle being driven by Batwoman. Cause, effect, straight and simple line between them.
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There is red trim elsewhere other than the logo, lol. I wouldn't describe the logo as having trim anyway, it's just red. Not once have I cared about the design of the logo or what color it is.
This all stems from me saying I didn't like the presence of the logo on the hood and color on the front fender. If my opinion isn't all about what I care about, I don't know what to say.
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You didn't just voice an opinion, though; you conjectured that their intent was to base it on the Barris Batmobile. That is a conjecture about other people's intentions and choices, not merely an expression of your own feelings, and thus it is fair game for critiquing. I disagree that that was their intent, for the reasons I've put forth.
Wow, that is some big hair.
And just in case someone misinterprets this, I don't mean this as a racial thing, I'd be saying the same thing if she was white and had a giant perm.
And most of them were cheap and cheesy as hell.TV series--even kid's TV shows have paid for custom cars (or had them modified) that did not look like a barely embellished stock off of the lot. If the Kroffts' always low-budgeted Electra Woman and Dyna Girl TV series could afford to lease or build the vehicle for that 1976 series--
--then the Berlanti series should be able to do something more imaginative than a barely modified stock car.
It's also worth keeping in mind we don't know the context of the design, it could just be that this was a car that Ryan or Luke already had, and they decided to add the Bat stuff to it.
Could the Batmobile we see here turn out to be an/the actual Batmobile in-universe?
Probably going to open a whole can of worms here so sharpen your red pencils but I was looking thorough the various batmobiles and I see the 1943 batmobile had colored panels on the fenders as well. I guess if they were going to go with this look I might've made the logo even larger on the hood a la Firebird, If nothing else, the car looks fun and I'm curious where they go with the series this season. It will be interesting if really take off running in a different direction as it look like they don't want Ryan to just be a Kate proxy.
I love the big hair Leslie had in the publicity photo that was everywhere when she was first announced. I fully expected her Batwoman wig to be similar, though I expected it to be red.
Nothing wrong with that. It's still very reminiscent of the comics Batmobiles of the '70s and '80s, which were mostly just sportscars with an emblem on the hood.
The new movie Batmobile is going in a similar direction. It's somewhat more tricked out, but it still looks more like a functional sportscar (or sportscar/dune buggy hybrid?) than most previous film Batmobiles.
I always kinda liked Firebirds. I sometimes wonder why cars with painted designs on them didn't catch on more.
Nothing wrong with that. It's still very reminiscent of the comics Batmobiles of the '70s and '80s, which were mostly just sportscars with an emblem on the hood.
The new movie Batmobile is going in a similar direction. It's somewhat more tricked out, but it still looks more like a functional sportscar (or sportscar/dune buggy hybrid?) than most previous film Batmobiles.
I always kinda liked Firebirds. I sometimes wonder why cars with painted designs on them didn't catch on more.
That actually sounds pretty cool. I'm also not a big fan of the logo as-is. "Toyetic" was a good word for it, and I think leaning into the ostentatiousness and theatricality would help (or just having it done in outline rather than solid color). Reminds me of something someone said about the Jared Leto Joker, that he looked like the thug in the Joker's gang the Joker would tell to tone it down a bit. This looks like a car I might see on the street driven by someone who was really into Batman/woman.
Haven't we just been through this? The reference is to the red-on-black color scheme of Batwoman's costume.
Most "normal" people , especially of my generation would at least unconsciously make the connection with the 60's TV car.
And as for why a logo on the car is a "bad idea"... she might want to "sneak up" on people, and doesn't want to make it obvious that Batwoman is coming on the scene.
Kinda like in Chicago, where we have police cars with lights, but we also have undercover cars that are only marked because they have an "M " License plate. Unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't otherwise think it was a cop car.
And on a tangent, on a question that was probably answered twice already.... but what was the reason why Sophie wasn't chosen to become Batwoman. It seems like she would have had an "easy" transition, storywise, to fit into the role.
^ Greg Berlanti inexplicably talked Caroline Dries into creating a brand-new character.
I think it's a reference to the red on black dragon sigil of House Targaryen.
Maybe it's to Harley Quinn. Or Daredevil. Or Captain Picard. Or Darth Maul. Or Freddy Krueger...