Barbara Eden on Why Jeannie and Tony Were Never Intimate: "She was an entity"
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Well, for one thing, England is in Europe and Egypt is in Africa.
I had the same reaction earlier today when I saw that picture, but this is still how I felt, and reacted to this reveal 30 years ago, which may have something to do with VHS picture quality and a 16 inch tv screen, or that I judged him by his Coronation Street accent, rather than what he actually looked like.
I was blindsided.
A lot of planets have a Coronation Street.
So? and most of Russia is in Asia. When it comes to African geography the Sahara is the most important feature restricting population movement. Egypt is on the Mediterranean.
You were the one who chose to set the terms by lumping Japan and the Philippines together based on their continent. So it logically follows that the answer to your question about what makes England and Egypt different, by the very standard you yourself defined, is that they're on different continents. It's arbitrary either way, but you don't get to claim an arbitrary standard is relevant in one case but irrelevant in another.
The only reason Europeans want to think of Egyptians as "white" is because we wanted to claim the dawn of Western civilization as part of our own direct heritage instead of someone else's.
I picked them because they are really far apart with a large stretch of ocean in between. Ancient people didn't have any idea where we would end up dividing continents on a map.
That argument would have more weight if it weren't for that incident on twitter a decade ago where it had to be explained to many people that Rami Malek was Egyptan.
The fact that it's arbitrary is my entire bloody point. You can't talk about whiteness as if it were some absolute, unvarying concept while simultaneously insisting an equally arbitrary category like "Asian" is meaningless.
The fact that many Americans are embarrassingly ignorant about ethnic diversity is not a valid counterargument. Knowledge should override ignorance. The fact that so many people want it the other way around is why the world is such a mess these days.
I'm not the one trying to limit white to just pasty people. There are a handful of human phenotypes on this planet that were created by population genetic bottlenecks ages ago. The one we call white has been artificiallly narrowed for various biased reasons over the centuries. For some reason, people today seem to think that perpetuating the artifical racist definition of white is somehow not racist. it's mind boggling.
Neither am I. I'm saying the exact opposite, that it's an arbitrary category whose definition varies over time, and it's foolish to insist on an inflexible definition for it. If you haven't gotten that by now, then you're not even trying to listen to me and talking to you is a waste of time.
You're right, we clearly aren't getting what the other is trying to say. Lets just drop it.
With a name like "Rami Malek", what did they think he was? Scottish?
Icelandic. That’s just science.
