Also "I, Mudd" and "The Trouble With Tribbles."
Bad Starship Names
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Also "I, Mudd" and "The Trouble With Tribbles."
That one isn't actually a problem! While the city of Leningrad changed its name back to Saint Petersburg in 1991, its province is still known as Leningrad Oblast. So obviously every time a character mentions Leningrad in Star Trek, they're just talking about the oblast rather than the city.
Also the Systems Commonwealth in Gene Roddenberry's: Andromeda.
They dodged a bullet when they named a Nebula-class ship the Merrimac, rather than the name she became (in)famous under, theVirginia.
But they walked right into one with the USS Yamato. Sternbach has explicitly said he doubted it was named after the ship in Space Battleship Yamato/Star Blazers.
Other problematic names include multiple IJN vessels: Akagi, Kongo, and Musashi among them. Also the Crockett, Gandhi, and (possibly) Columbia.
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Yes, they would have a distance of 300-400 years to the Western-Soviet antagonism, probably giving them a different perspective (and a different value system). Moreover, (via the entity of United Earth) Federation Starfleet would by definition unite both Western and Eastern (e.g. Soviet) heritage (not to mention all heritages of alien members). Theoretically it wouldn't be more 'American' or 'Western' than it would be 'Russian' or 'Chinese', or 'African'. (Even though of course that is what we mostly see in this American show.)
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That or it is named after a human colony that used the name for whatever reason, just like there's a town in New York called Babylon.That one isn't actually a problem! While the city of Leningrad changed its name back to Saint Petersburg in 1991, its province is still known as Leningrad Oblast. So obviously every time a character mentions Leningrad in Star Trek, they're just talking about the oblast rather than the city.
Or the ship was consciously named after the Leningrad period of St. Petersburg (perhaps to remember the city's defiance in the siege by Nazi Germany, or some such)
That definitely would've been a better character!
Well it's nu-trek so gotta be edgy with the names, reimagining the characters and the retcon reboot
STID has many flaws. That ship is just one of them. 
STID has many flaws. That ship is just one of them.
I like ID for what it is....no doubt there are parts of it that are ridiculous yet also wildly entertaining. But...some of it....man.....
The worst parts of STID are...damn near the worst things in the Trek movie franchise.
Everything about that ship was just a bit too on the nose. It's the Bad Guy's ship, so of course its hull is black, its interiors are dark, it's armed with a huge gun and it has a mean name like Vengeance. Subtlety went completely out the window when that ship showed up.
Agreed
Yeah...I mean the only thing worse is if it had been called the USS Satanic Cult and if it boasted Quantum SlowPainfulLingeringDeath Torpedoes.
I got the impression the black hull was meant to evoke the stealth planes we have today, which are all black.
In and of itself, the Vengeance class is a perfectly valid design. IMHO, Starfleet would be foolish to simply abandon it.
With just a few mods, the ship could serve well in peacetime. Since it can operate with a minimum of crew (or even no crew at all), Vengeance-class ships would be well suited for disaster relief missions or planetary evacuations.
And of course in wartime, they'd also be ideal. Heavily armed and risking as few crew lives as possible.
Agreed that the NAME should be changed though.
With just a few mods, the ship could serve well in peacetime. Since it can operate with a minimum of crew (or even no crew at all), Vengeance-class ships would be well suited for disaster relief missions or planetary evacuations.
And of course in wartime, they'd also be ideal. Heavily armed and risking as few crew lives as possible.
Agreed that the NAME should be changed though.
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Bit of an in-universe reference, but they have the USS Gorkon in Starfleet by the 24th century. Now, I appreciate that Gorkon was the Klingon Chancellor who extended the olive branch to the Federation and began the peace process, but he was assassinated by two renegade Starfleet officers. Seems to be a bit 'on the nose' using that name for a Starfleet ship. I doubt if the Klingons ever had an IKS James T Kirk.
I think Vengeance might have made more sense if the project had been kickstarted to go fight a war with the Romulans.
I used U.S.S. Leningrad for a ship but it was for a fake episode made in the 1970s.
Another fan ship was the U.S.S. Doomsday (!) and the U.S.S Ace.
One comment I liked on AVClub's DS9 reviews was about using Earth river names for runabouts and how long until we get to the Dawson's Creek.
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