Bad Language in Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Jamie Calderhead, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Roald

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    TOS wasn't always aimed at kids.... Miri gave me nightmares!!
     
  2. Agony_Boothb

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    I remember getting scared during the transporter accident scene in TMP when I was little. The rest of the movie put me to sleep so i guess it evened out
     
  3. donners22

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    I can't think of anything Discovery has done which is worse than evil Kirk trying to rape Rand, and Spock joking about it afterward.
     
  4. C.E. Evans

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    I know I wouldn't have been allowed to watch DIS as a kid.
    Even children's books can be scary to some kids, but TOS was aimed at a wide audience--kids could watch it too. I remember during a local one-day teacher's strike, the principal and staff gathered us in the auditorium and showed "Space Seed" on a projector reel before dismissing us. Cool way to end the school day.
     
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  5. Isolar

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    I was jarred by the context. But, I'm personally much more likely to say "Fuck this!" than to say "Fuck yeah!" Making it humorous was actually the safest way to do it.
     
  6. nightwind1

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    I think it was fucking cool.
     
  7. nightwind1

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    You DO realize that the rating of DSC is "TV-MA", don't you? "MA" means mature audiences.

    It's right at the front of the show, so they let you know that it probably isn't appropriate for a five-year old.
     
  8. Mel Tenorio

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    I didn't like that they said 'fuck' because the context of the scene was very cliche and has been used so many times in other bad films and just didn't fit in the Trek-verse. Although didn't Data say 'shit' in Generations?

    As for moral issues, who cares. Being concerned that your child just heard the work 'fuck' is a very First-World Problem.
     
  9. KennyB

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    If you were watching at 6, it was most likely syndicated and edited by then..........if DSC is ever presented at the afterschool hour like TOS was in the 70s & 80s in sure some things will get snipped and overdubbed.........
     
  10. cultcross

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    Yeah, someone got stabbed in the same episode and someone got their face burned off. This isn't a show aimed at young children.
     
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  11. C.E. Evans

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    It was edited for time to fit in more commercials than it originally did on NBC, but not for content.
     
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  12. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Trek always "skewed" for an older audience. GR wanted to "rescue" science fiction on TV from being seen as kiddie fare. He wanted do make an adult drama in a Science Fiction setting with adult situations and adult topics. And for the most part he succeeded with in the restrictions of US TV at that time. At the same time he failed because science fiction is still seen at kiddie fare. Something safe to show in the afternoon when the kids get out of school. Because ray guns, space ships and aliens are for kids. Another thing that happened was tastes changed. What was considered adult drama ( and comedy for that matter) changed. What was "Adult" in the late 60's was tame and safe in the 70's, 80's and on ward.
     
  13. Grendelsbayne

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    In my experience, a dept. Store Is a Sears, JC Penny's, Kohls, etc. Walmart is as much like them as it is like save a lot. It is obviously not just a supermarket, but is still a supermarket. And it may be a recent development compared to other parts of the store, but its still at least 20 years ago.
     
  14. Nerys Myk

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    And Wal-Mart has seriously impacted the business of stores like Sears and JC Penny's because they sell the same products. So yeah Wal-Mart is very much like them, only with groceries so they can do the same to stores like Safeway, Albertson's, Raley's and Kroger's. To me, a supermarket is primarily a grocery store and that's not Wal-Mart.
     
  15. PixelMagic

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    Where did he say he was watching Deep Space Nine?
     
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  16. C.E. Evans

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    I don't think it's seen as much as kiddie fare as it being seen as silly in general. I think for most, aliens, ray guns, spaceships, and people dressed in "space uniforms" is too far removed from reality to be taken seriously. It's an immediate turn-off, and probably why a spaceship show will never have humongous ratings on a broadcast network (or maybe any network).
    I think there's still a difference between things everyone can watch and stuff only for adults. It doesn't mean stuff "just for kids," because that's something Trek truly never was, but it did have stuff for everyone.
     
  17. Nerys Myk

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    That's just sad
    The meaning of "only for adults" has changed over the years.
     
  18. Mage

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    Right, that's it! It's ON!!!!! Come at me!! ;) ;)
     
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  19. C.E. Evans

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    Not really. We still have R-movies, NC-17 movies, and TV-MA tv shows. An argument could be made, though, that what's considered PG has changed and that there's more TV-MA fare on cable TV these days.
     
  20. jamestyler

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    As adults our view of what appeals to kids and what they'd understand is highly skewed. When I was still doing live performance stuff, I got a load of abuse for changing the tone of the show from what we traditionally see as kiddie friendly, to challenging and more complex tones (well, as much as I could in the format).

    The entire reason I changed it was watching kids reactions: It was so purified by a generation that watches grown up(ish) TV and play Call of Duty. Even then I still underestimated my own kids and they've surprised me on more than one occasion on how well they can consume, follow and understand.

    kids are far more adaptable and smarter than they're given credit for.

    You have my axe!
     
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