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Babylon 5

Honestly I've LONG since given up on any movement anywhere in the franchise for at least several decades to come. JMS talked a big talk some years back about getting the movie going on his own, but that never materialised (presumably nobody wanted to pay for it.)
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You'll remember that tweet from jms back in March where he spoke of former FI/Netter employees posting up re-rendered clips of the CGI on youtube - and how he wanted THEM to contact him about something pretty cool with regards to the original 3D assets.

Of course former FI and Netter employees were not uploading re-rendered clips - it was me, but for some reason for years jms and a few others seem to think I'm mojo or someone else who worked at FI or Netter. . . . I'm not. Anyway, as the one doing the uploading referenced in his tweet I got wind of what he was telling at least some of the folks who got in contact with him.

Turns out the 3D assets he requested were for reference purposes only, as WB is looking to do a (potential) series of animated movies based in the B5 universe - maybe one or two a year was mentioned. . . . Outside of that, not much in the way of details - so don't know what style of animation it will be, who the voice actors might be, what time periods (or stories) they might cover, or even how far along in development the whole thing is.

But it all sounded very positive and that WB was certainly involved with the project and looking to proceed with it. So assuming no major f'ck ups along the way something should be officially announced in the not too distant. One thing I noticed was the term movies was mentioned, so it might tie in with jms's ownership of movie rights. Maybe.
 
Hm. I’d figured the new B5 thing he was hinting at was a documentary, like the one done for DS9 a few years ago, or the Voyager one being shot now. Though I suppose there have also been hints of two B5 things being in the hopper, so they could both be the case.
 
You'll remember that tweet from jms back in March where he spoke of former FI/Netter employees posting up re-rendered clips of the CGI on youtube - and how he wanted THEM to contact him about something pretty cool with regards to the original 3D assets.

Of course former FI and Netter employees were not uploading re-rendered clips - it was me, but for some reason for years jms and a few others seem to think I'm mojo or someone else who worked at FI or Netter. . . . I'm not. Anyway, as the one doing the uploading referenced in his tweet I got wind of what he was telling at least some of the folks who got in contact with him.

Turns out the 3D assets he requested were for reference purposes only, as WB is looking to do a (potential) series of animated movies based in the B5 universe - maybe one or two a year was mentioned. . . . Outside of that, not much in the way of details - so don't know what style of animation it will be, who the voice actors might be, what time periods (or stories) they might cover, or even how far along in development the whole thing is.

But it all sounded very positive and that WB was certainly involved with the project and looking to proceed with it. So assuming no major f'ck ups along the way something should be officially announced in the not too distant. One thing I noticed was the term movies was mentioned, so it might tie in with jms's ownership of movie rights. Maybe.
Actually no I don't since I massively pruned back my twitter follows last year. But OK, I guess? I mean it'd be nice if it works out, but I've been on this merry-go-round too long to get excited until at least the first trailer drops. It seems every few years there's a rumour of *something* in the works but for one reason or another it just never materialises.
 
For some reason, I always forget just how good The Gathering is until I rewatch it.

It's got a really engaging story that sets up the premise and universe of B5 pretty seamlessly, ties into or directly precipitates future storylines, and pretty quickly establishes the overall tone and feel of the series.

It's also the only instance I can think of where changes between a Pilot and Episode 1x01 don't take me out of the story.
 
While it's fairly slow here, I hope it's okay if I let folks know that JMS:
- had a new writing book, "Becoming a Writer, Staying a Writer" come out June 1. Completely new, not a re-do of his previous scriptwriting book.
- has a new novel, "Together We Will Go" coming out July 6. It's not genre and is unlike anything he's ever done before. I've read an ARC of it and loved it a lot. Highly recommended.
- has comics coming out via AWA/Upshot. "The Resistance" was the first mini, "The Resistance: Uprising" and "Moths" are happening now in that shared universe. Another, non-related (and non-B5) comic called "Telepaths" will be coming out in September.
 
"Passing Through Gethsemane"

As standalone episodes go, this was well-constructed and thought-provoking. I feel like mindwiping was touched on before, but since it was an age ago, it's not surprising that it's almost re-explained here.

Based on familiarity with the actor, it wasn't hard to guess that Brad Dourif was playing a serial killer. They needed a strong presence for the role, and he always delivers. No worries on that count.

Yet, having to re-introduce the concept of mindwiping also meant having to spend a lot of time getting the pieces in place, leaving less room to really expand on the ramifications of what occurs when the pursuit of revenge wavers between just and perverse.

The big question the episode poses - mindwiping as a sufficient/humane punishment: yay or nay?

Rating: ***

-I'm writing this several weeks after I saw the episode, which explains why my thoughts are so limited. If there was a subplot, I don't recall it.
-Was it back in season one that mindwiping was first mentioned?
 
"Passing Through Gethsemane"
-Was it back in season one that mindwiping was first mentioned?

Yes, it was covered extensively in "The Quality of Mercy" :

It is therefore the decision of this court that you be sentenced
to the death of personality. You will be committed under guard to a
medlab facility, where you will be telepathically scanned, and then
brainwiped. The personality of Karl Edward Mueller will be totally
and completely erased. After a second scan to determine that the
personality that committed the crimes has been eradicated, you
will then be programmed with a new set of memories. For the rest of
your na-ettral life, you will serve the community harmed by your
actions.
 
One thing I always wondered about was that Lyrta will later say that even she can't telepathically 'cure' alcoholism, which makes me wonder what would happen if an alcoholic was mindwiped. Would they desire alcohol without even understanding why?
 
I stumbled across a B5 LIVECast from noted Star Trek fans/podcasters Norman C. Lao and Charlynn Schmiedt called The Zocalo, and one of their discussions from earlier this year has solidified the way that I'm going to approach the series as a closed-loop narrative, which is to completely ignore the existence of Sleeping in Light and treat Objects at Rest as the finale.
 
One thing I always wondered about was that Lyrta will later say that even she can't telepathically 'cure' alcoholism, which makes me wonder what would happen if an alcoholic was mindwiped. Would they desire alcohol without even understanding why?

I am not site but i think they do because the body is also addicted to alcohol
 
One thing I always wondered about was that Lyrta will later say that even she can't telepathically 'cure' alcoholism, which makes me wonder what would happen if an alcoholic was mindwiped. Would they desire alcohol without even understanding why?

After the mindwipe, as soon as they got drunk using alcohol, they would become an alcoholic with a new personality. They would have the same understanding as to why they are an alcoholic as they did with the previous personality.

"Passing Through Gethsemane"

As standalone episodes go, this was well-constructed and thought-provoking. I feel like mindwiping was touched on before, but since it was an age ago, it's not surprising that it's almost re-explained here.

Based on familiarity with the actor, it wasn't hard to guess that Brad Dourif was playing a serial killer. They needed a strong presence for the role, and he always delivers. No worries on that count.

Yet, having to re-introduce the concept of mindwiping also meant having to spend a lot of time getting the pieces in place, leaving less room to really expand on the ramifications of what occurs when the pursuit of revenge wavers between just and perverse.

The big question the episode poses - mindwiping as a sufficient/humane punishment: yay or nay?

Rating: ***

-I'm writing this several weeks after I saw the episode, which explains why my thoughts are so limited. If there was a subplot, I don't recall it.
-Was it back in season one that mindwiping was first mentioned?

I would have to say the subplot was the return of Lyta Alexander from Vorlon space.
 
I would have to say the subplot was the return of Lyta Alexander from Vorlon space.

You’re right - I did remember that happening but for some reason thought it had taken place earlier in the season. That’s what I get for waiting weeks between episodes to write these.
 
I won't say too much about the context because: spoilers, but in one of the Psi Corp novels there's actually a scene where you see Bester's POV as he "kills" someone's personality (then rebuilds a facsimile of it to serve his purpose.) It's really creepy and really underlines the idea that it's not just about altering memories and behaviours, it's actual murder in every meaningful sense, even though there's still a body with a pulse left behind at the end of it.

It also did a much better job in general (as did those books as a whole) to actually justify the level of societal distrust and prejudice directed at telepaths. A strong P-9 can give you a stroke, and there'd be no way to prove foul play without a P-12 to verify it.
One thing I always wondered about was that Lyrta will later say that even she can't telepathically 'cure' alcoholism, which makes me wonder what would happen if an alcoholic was mindwiped. Would they desire alcohol without even understanding why?
There's a biochemical component to any addiction, so there's no way to "deprogram" a brain out of an addiction just by altering neural patterns, at least not without some kind of pharmacological assistance.

That said, there's probably ways to brute force it--like say for example introduce a compulsive gag reflex as a response to the smell/taste sense of alcohol, so they physically cannot swallow a drink, or divert the craving to something else--but those would probably do more damage than good in the long run and don't actually cure anything. The person is still an addict regardless, they just can't do anything to fulfil the craving and without the ability to enact one's free will, the result would likely be mental illness, if not full on psychosis.
Kinda like "curing" a leaky tap by setting your house on fire.
 
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