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Babylon 5

It's been a few weeks but I should be getting back to season 3 tonight. Next up - Passing Through Gethsemane.
 
It might not be as compelling and the storytelling might be a little lopsided, but there are still some very good episodes. Plus Lochley. Gotta love Lochley!
 
How many different viewing orders are there for Crusade? I'm pretty sure I've seen references to at least 2 or 3.
 
I may be in the minority, but I really loved CRUSADE. It had the potential to be an excellent continuation of the B5 universe.

Loved all the characters, though I'm glad they dropped that pilot, Trace. (Which, just like Keffer, was a mandate by network to add 'hotshot pilot'.)
 
I may be in the minority, but I really loved CRUSADE. It had the potential to be an excellent continuation of the B5 universe.

Loved all the characters, though I'm glad they dropped that pilot, Trace. (Which, just like Keffer, was a mandate by network to add 'hotshot pilot'.)
I loved Crusade too. I've said it before and I'll say it again... pound for pound, the first 13 eps of Crusade were much better than the first 13 of B5. With the exception of Trace, I loved the entire cast right out of the gate. The stories they were setting up really interested me. I even liked the music, which was a really cool future sounding electronic jazz thing. We even got screwed on the script books when JMS never continued them after v1.
 
I also loved Crusade and hated how it was treated. Things were about to get crazy when the show stopped, if the unfilmed scripts are anything to go by.
 
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I even liked the music, which was a really cool future sounding electronic jazz thing. We even got screwed on the script books when JMS never continued them after v1.

You're far more tolerant than I am. :p I think the most I could have ever learned to do was "abide" the music.
 
How many different viewing orders are there for Crusade? I'm pretty sure I've seen references to at least 2 or 3.
Sounds about right. Off the top of my head it goes: production order, broadcast order, and JMS's recommended order.

None of them actually work, but that's just how much TNT borked the internal continuity. I think I generally go with JMS's order, but just ditch 'Warzone' (no great loss) and start with 'Racing the Night' as was intended.
If JMS isn't going to do anything with Crusade, wish he'd do a book or comic and FINISH it. or just tell us what he had in mind.
Miss Galen...
He can't. WB controls everything besides the movie rights, and supposedly it's been made clear that for various reasons (mostly the asinine way WB's divisions actively complete rather than co-operate) there's zero interest on their end with doing anything B5 ever. So unless there's a major shake-up, regime change, and/or fundamental reordering of the company's entire corporate culture; what we got is what we got.
 
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He can't. WB controls everything besides the movie rights, and supposedly it's been made clear that for various reasons (mostly the asinine way WB's divisions actively complete rather than co-operate) there's zero interest on their end with doing anything B5 ever. So unless there's a major shake-up, regime change, and/or fundamental reordering of the company's entire corporate culture; what we got is what we got.
It's shit like this that really pisses me off. They don't have any interest in using the property but won't let anyone else use it simply because they own it and don't want to sell it. WB is far from the only guilty party from that kind of practice but it's still infuriating.
 
It's shit like this that really pisses me off. They don't have any interest in using the property but won't let anyone else use it simply because they own it and don't want to sell it. WB is far from the only guilty party from that kind of practice but it's still infuriating.
Irksome though it may be, it's actually a sound business strategy...broadly speaking.
The logic goeth thusly: IP is a resource like anything else and if you have it, that means nobody else does, so even if you don't actively use it, you're denying it to the competition and achiving net profit since audience attention is a zero-sum game. Yes, it's dumb, short sighted and anathema to creativity...but that's show business! ;)

Honestly I've LONG since given up on any movement anywhere in the franchise for at least several decades to come. JMS talked a big talk some years back about getting the movie going on his own, but that never materialised (presumably nobody wanted to pay for it.)

Right now, just getting a decent HD (or even a not garbage SD) release seems like a victory.
 
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Irksome though it may be, it's actually a sound business strategy...broadly speaking.
The logic goeth thusly: IP is a resource like anything else and if you have it, that means nobody else does, so even if you don't actively use it, you're denying it to the competition and achiving net profit since audience attention is a zero-sum game. Yes, it's dumb, short sighted and anathema to creativity...but that's show business! ;)
Yeaaah. I get that.

But that doesn't mean I have to like it! :scream:

Honestly I've LONG since given up on any movement anywhere in the franchise for at least several decades to come. JMS talked a big talk some years back about getting the movie going on his own, but that never materialised (presumably nobody wanted to pay for it.)
Yeah, I've pretty much given up on it, too, especially after the weak efforts of the Voices in the Dark.

That and, well, we keep losing everyone too damn quickly. :wah:
 
Yeah, I've pretty much given up on it, too, especially after the weak efforts of the Voices in the Dark.
On the plus side, someone may get a clue and go make a Mass Effect TV show, which would kinda be like having a B5 show again. Plus there's one more season of The Expanse to go...
 
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Honestly I've LONG since given up on any movement anywhere in the franchise for at least several decades to come. JMS talked a big talk some years back about getting the movie going on his own, but that never materialised (presumably nobody wanted to pay for it.)

Straczynski is also notorious for getting high on his own farts, and he also, much like Jeph Loeb, has precisely one story to tell and he just keeps trying to recycle it.
 
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