Babylon 5
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There was one case where VFX was replaced after the first run (that I can recall specifically, though I feel like there might've been one or two other post-airing revisions that actually went through).
When Ivanova shows Sheridan the video of the Earth destroyer shooting down refugee ships at Proxima, it was scripted that we'd just see the video on the monitor on the set, so the VFX used the default Earth Destroyer model, which was the "Agamemnon," since that was the first one we saw. The name wouldn't have been legible in the on-set footage, and the ship wasn't named in that script, anyway. The editor decided to cut in to the footage directly, though, and the nameplate became very legible. Since it was pretty important, story-wise, that the Agamemnon didn't participate in any massacres because of Sheridan's personal connection with the ship, they re-rendered the shot with one of the destroyed mentioned in the previous episode as having fired on civilians to enforce the blockade.
But, that's the only time I'm sure of where the show was altered for the benefit of the reruns.
I should think they'd just pay Melissa. The original actress wouldn't be entitled to anything.
How can an actor get residuals from something that doesn't air anymore?
BUT SHE HAS A CONTRACT!!!!
Her contract (Tasha Yar's sister from TNG) says that this is the episode that they pay her for. Any changes after the fact are not her fault and her legally binding contract still says that this is the money that arrives as a surprise now and then, and buys her a mid sized lunch, every time they rerun Revelations 200 times.
Its not like Kevin Spacey had to give back his paycheck for All the Money in the world, but what about his residuals?
Suing for breach of contract can sometimes yield an additional unexpected windfall.
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When we finished season 3 my husband was like “I had to wait MONTHS for season 4! It was so painful!”
Next up is the movie Thirdspace and then onto episode 9. I feel kind of overwhelmed with all these movies...
RE: HD transfers. I think the only real hope (aside from a bunch of crazed B5 fans somehow gaining control of WB) lies in AI assisted up-scaling of the DVD masters. No clue how that'll cope with the low res artifacting on the CG/live action comp shots, but it seems like the simple and cheap option overall.
Either way, I'm not sure such a brief and minor role rates much--if anything--in the way of residuals. Especially not given how little airtime B5 has gotten over the years.
As far as I'm aware her they never went and removed the original actress from the actual episode she appeared in. Yes they did reshoot her side of that scene with Gilbert, but that was only ever used in the black & white flashback to that scene for continuity purposes...and not to confuse the audience.
Either way, I'm not sure such a brief and minor role rates much--if anything--in the way of residuals. Especially not given how little airtime B5 has gotten over the years.
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The Seinfeld episode where they sent Jerry thousands of Residual checks for 25 cents, and he got cramps in his hand.
This conversation was about why they didn't replace Beth Toussaint.
Did George get into contract problems every time he remastered Star Wars? Trying to track down all the extras from the the New Hope Jabba the Hutt scene and make it rain singles.
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I never really watched Seinfeld. Didn't do a thing for me.
It doesn't work the same way with movies anyway. For the vast majority, people get paid for their time and that's that.
Alec Guinness got a percentage of the box office, but that's the kind of thing only the major players get. Lucas did however give "points" to the three principles and maybe a few other key personnel after the movie made it big, but that was something he did off his own back as a reward for them. It wasn't a contractual obligation.
It might very well be a union/residuals thing. It could just as easily be a "WB is never going to pay for the re-edit" thing. It sounds simple and minor, but everything (even minor edits) costs money and why spend it on such a niggling bit of continuity?
He owned Star Wars, so no.
It doesn't work the same way with movies anyway. For the vast majority, people get paid for their time and that's that.
Alec Guinness got a percentage of the box office, but that's the kind of thing only the major players get. Lucas did however give "points" to the three principles and maybe a few other key personnel after the movie made it big, but that was something he did off his own back as a reward for them. It wasn't a contractual obligation.
Wow, I didn't realize it would be that expensive and complicated.
That looks pretty good.
So Thirdspace.... I zoned out after about 20 mins. Only thing I remember is Ivanova asking if she could kill people. Turned it off 40 mins before it ended. Don’t plan on finishing.
There's also several episodes where the initial tx was in Britain (as Channel 4 ran each season complete, where as the last four episodes were held back in the States), with errors in the UK versions that were then corrected (most notably, Londo and Morden having a big discussion in front of a studio wall and stepladder, as the virtual set was awol).
I hate to say it, but you're not missing much.
While the concept of THIRDSPACE was great, it didn't work for some reason.
Odd note... one of the raider clips from THIRDSPACE was used for the season 5 theme images.
Odd note... one of the raider clips from THIRDSPACE was used for the season 5 theme images.
ThirdSpace was effectively the B5 movie; use the characters, but no ongoing plot.
I think it was odder that scenes from "River of Souls" were used in the Crusade title sequence.
Oh God, River of Souls. At least Spock's Brain was shorter.
What about the scene with Zack and Lyta in the elevator?
"Dude, I like want to take you to dinner, but if you're not into that, sorry, and we can pretend that I never said anything. Sorry."
Cockblocked by alien space gods.
Hilarious.
The IXP lady, she could have said... "Hey Johnny! Remember that time I made out with your wife at the Office Christmas party?"
"Dude, I like want to take you to dinner, but if you're not into that, sorry, and we can pretend that I never said anything. Sorry."
Cockblocked by alien space gods.
Hilarious.
The IXP lady, she could have said... "Hey Johnny! Remember that time I made out with your wife at the Office Christmas party?"
Do I have to be one to remind you it at least gave us Tracey Scoggins in underwear? Sexy Lochness is the best Lochness.
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