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Babylon 5

But In the Beginning gives away the big secret of season 1! And takes place after season 3's War Without End.
 
But In the Beginning gives away the big secret of season 1! And takes place after season 3's War Without End.

If it's a choice between somebody watching or not, I say give them ItB. Face it, nobody anymore will get the same experience those of us who watched it back in the day had. Waiting weeks and weeks, communicating with JMS about each episode... Those were the days! ;)
 
Something that's always been bugging me about ItB:

Towards the end, when we see the EA President announce the Babylon project, I swear that the subsequent montage comprised all five Babylon stations. But the only footage I have since been able to track down of this scene, has only Babylons 1, 4 and 5. So am I just misremembering this?
 
I remember it showing all 5, but I haven't watched it in forever, so my memory's worth about as much as you're paying for it. :)
 
I know all five Babylon stations were color coded in spectrum order - B1 is red, B2 orange, B3 yellow, and of course B4 is green and B5 blue - but I could simply be remembering JMS' post to that effect on Usenet.

The B5 wiki says that only stations 1, 4 and 5 were ever shown onscreen. For what that's worth.
 
They must have at least showed the explosions, without showing the stations?

Were their different cuts to the "movie" internationally?
 
But In the Beginning gives away the big secret of season 1! And takes place after season 3's War Without End.

If it's a choice between somebody watching or not, I say give them ItB. Face it, nobody anymore will get the same experience those of us who watched it back in the day had. Waiting weeks and weeks, communicating with JMS about each episode... Those were the days! ;)
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=11374053&postcount=77

According to the definitive list I posted previously (link above), which is based upon JMS's preferences, In The Beginning should be watched after all other B5 episodes and movies, except two episodes - thusly:

(Everything else...)
In the Beginning (TNT TV Movie)
Sleeping in Light (Season Five concluded)
The Deconstruction of Falling Stars (Season Four concluded)
 
JMS doesn't know someone thing about seasons one though... It's boring unwatchable twaddle for the most part.

Season one is like a barometric chamber increasing the fecal count to dozens of parts per hundred in the air we breath as our definition of shit is slowly redefined until season two is pretty fucking spectacular.
 
I'm not sure games can (or should) be compared to TV series.
You obviously don't play games. In the last couple decades the amount of depth and quality in video games stories has risen the to the same level as what you'll find on TV or in movies. I would easily put games like Mass Effect or Uncharted up there withe the best movies and TV shows in their genres without any hesitation. The Batman: Arkham games are some the best Batman stories ever told in any medium. The Last of Us is one of the absolute best things I have ever seen, watched or played in my entire life. It is a truly truly powerful experience that is actually improved by it's interactivity. It is seriously amazing.
Not everyone likes third (or first) person shooters. I knew the Mass Effect trilogy is well regarded with regard to its SF themes but I can't stand the genre.
That really has nothing to do with this conversation. The gameplay doesn't really effect the depth of the universe. It's the amazing amounts of backstory and world building that put it at the level of Star Trek, Stargate, B5, ect. not the game play.
 
How it aired on TV vs. the DVD release, would both be mildly different American editions of the Movie, and then of course there was a prerelease wandering around for a bit that my grubby friends somehow got a hold of.
 
Something that's always been bugging me about ItB:

Towards the end, when we see the EA President announce the Babylon project, I swear that the subsequent montage comprised all five Babylon stations. But the only footage I have since been able to track down of this scene, has only Babylons 1, 4 and 5. So am I just misremembering this?

I only remember "The Babylon Station" because they didn't give the first one a 1 blowing up at the end. I never saw 2 or 3.
 
JMS doesn't know someone thing about seasons one though... It's boring unwatchable twaddle for the most part.

Season one is like a barometric chamber increasing the fecal count to dozens of parts per hundred in the air we breath as our definition of shit is slowly redefined until season two is pretty fucking spectacular.
Harsh.
 
I'm not sure games can (or should) be compared to TV series.
You obviously don't play games. In the last couple decades the amount of depth and quality in video games stories has risen the to the same level as what you'll find on TV or in movies. I would easily put games like Mass Effect or Uncharted up there withe the best movies and TV shows in their genres without any hesitation. The Batman: Arkham games are some the best Batman stories ever told in any medium. The Last of Us is one of the absolute best things I have ever seen, watched or played in my entire life. It is a truly truly powerful experience that is actually improved by it's interactivity. It is seriously amazing.
Not everyone likes third (or first) person shooters. I knew the Mass Effect trilogy is well regarded with regard to its SF themes but I can't stand the genre.
That really has nothing to do with this conversation. The gameplay doesn't really effect the depth of the universe. It's the amazing amounts of backstory and world building that put it at the level of Star Trek, Stargate, B5, ect. not the game play.

I still couldn't care less about it. It's a computer game not a TV show. It automatically excludes a large audience.
 
So far, The Parliament of Dreams
is my favorite. It showed me for the first time that the show was actually for adults. The over all acting is looser, and I'm liking G'Kar.
Infection was a boring retread, standard monster of the week stuff. Unless it leads to something else.....
Infection is one of the episodes that has ideas and themes that will be easy to see in retrospect after seeing the whole series. A number of episodes can feel the same in season one. The season is my favorite, now, but at the time watching it for the first time it was challenging to keep on with it.
 
So far, The Parliament of Dreams
is my favorite. It showed me for the first time that the show was actually for adults. The over all acting is looser, and I'm liking G'Kar.
Infection was a boring retread, standard monster of the week stuff. Unless it leads to something else.....
Infection is one of the episodes that has ideas and themes that will be easy to see in retrospect after seeing the whole series. A number of episodes can feel the same in season one. The season is my favorite, now, but at the time watching it for the first time it was challenging to keep on with it.


From memory it also introduced IPX, which as you say like several S1 episodes has a bit of payoff later.
 
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