I don't understand obtuse imagery.
Babylon 5
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That really depends on whether it is the picture that is objectionable, or the reaction. I find the appreciation of beauty to be honest and the suppression of it repressive. The picture is not pornographic, sexualized, or suggestive. As for the reaction to it, I get the impression that women do not enjoy being oppressed and restricted by the fear of male reaction. Or should they not dress as they wish and have the freedom to walk about unimpeded by male opinion of their choices?
Also, let's remember that actors and actresses pretty much want and need their looks to be appreciated. like I said, it's their job. They wouldn't be having professional publicity photos taken otherwise.
We all like to look at pretty things - to deny it is dishonest. And one can be respectful of a person and appreciate their attractiveness.
The goal should be a happy medium between the two extremes of being revolting about it, and being rigidly puritanical.
We all like to look at pretty things - to deny it is dishonest. And one can be respectful of a person and appreciate their attractiveness.
The goal should be a happy medium between the two extremes of being revolting about it, and being rigidly puritanical.
While an obviously popular topic of discussion, it needs to be conducted elsewhere, not in this forum. Feel free to bring the matter up in the QS&F forum. That is usually the best way to get questions answered or even effect a change.
We now return you to your Babylonian styled discussion, already in progress.
I love the little production gaffes that made it quite apparent how little money they had to make this show. Not to its detriment in fact, but rather adding to the charm:
Example: Garibaldi vs Drazi in The Ragged Edge - throwing each other against the set forces the "stone" balcony wall to wobble
Example: When Lennier "betrays" Sheridan in Objects at Rest he backs away into the wall, which shakes when he hits it
Example: In Severed Dreams, thes ISN Newscast get cut short when an explosion rocks the building. Debris can be seen landing on the newsdesk, with the anchors crying out in fear. The debris wasn't supposed to land that close to the actors, and their reaction to almost having it land on their heads was genuine.
Plus there's the lovely little nod of one of the show's Hugo Award statues sitting on Ivonova's desk in Sleeping in Light. Which is cute
Hugo - Yup, decided, time for a rewatch
Example: Garibaldi vs Drazi in The Ragged Edge - throwing each other against the set forces the "stone" balcony wall to wobble
Example: When Lennier "betrays" Sheridan in Objects at Rest he backs away into the wall, which shakes when he hits it
Example: In Severed Dreams, thes ISN Newscast get cut short when an explosion rocks the building. Debris can be seen landing on the newsdesk, with the anchors crying out in fear. The debris wasn't supposed to land that close to the actors, and their reaction to almost having it land on their heads was genuine.
Plus there's the lovely little nod of one of the show's Hugo Award statues sitting on Ivonova's desk in Sleeping in Light. Which is cute
Hugo - Yup, decided, time for a rewatch
New discussion with JMS at the NY Film Academy. I took some classes there once. Don't know if he talks about B5, haven't had time to watch the whole thing, but looks cool...
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Interesting. I've never heard this one before.
I forget the exact episode, but the biggest gaff I've spotted was somewhere in season 5, in a scene where Londo is in the Royal Court and the Regent is hiding behind the throne giggling to himself. If you watch the throne and not Londo like you're supposed to, you can quite clearly see the boom mike in shot, just behind the throne with the Regent.
Normally I don't go looking for these mistakes, but once I spotted this one, it all I can focus on in the scene.
Normally I don't go looking for these mistakes, but once I spotted this one, it all I can focus on in the scene.
He spends time talking to the questions asked for the purpose of why he is there. That's nice to see rather than someone using the forum to just promote their own accomplishments. He really seems there to help. So any mentions of B5 is just in passing to make the real point to the questions asked.
I learned of this when our first Captain passed away.
"Due to actor Michael O'Hare struggling with an increasingly debilitating case of schizophrenia, which caused him to miss an increasing amount of time from work as the first season progressed, O'Hare was eventually replaced by Bruce Boxleitner. At first JMS told O'Hare he would hold production of the show so that O'Hare could get the help he needed, but O'Hare refused. He felt it was unfair to the rest of the cast and crew to be left without work for so long, so he and JMS mutually agreed to have O'Hare leave at the first season's conclusion, with JMS utilizing a "trap door" storyline to explain the departure of Sinclair at the beginning of the second season. Straczynski also honored O'Hare's request to keep the real reason for the departure a secret until after O'Hare's passing in October 2012."
"Due to actor Michael O'Hare struggling with an increasingly debilitating case of schizophrenia, which caused him to miss an increasing amount of time from work as the first season progressed, O'Hare was eventually replaced by Bruce Boxleitner. At first JMS told O'Hare he would hold production of the show so that O'Hare could get the help he needed, but O'Hare refused. He felt it was unfair to the rest of the cast and crew to be left without work for so long, so he and JMS mutually agreed to have O'Hare leave at the first season's conclusion, with JMS utilizing a "trap door" storyline to explain the departure of Sinclair at the beginning of the second season. Straczynski also honored O'Hare's request to keep the real reason for the departure a secret until after O'Hare's passing in October 2012."
Good lord, it wasn't creepy. I met Claudia in 2010. She was selling her damn Playboy at the Star Trek convention in Vegas.
Break.... trivia....
The StarFuries were the first cinematic spacecraft to fly according to Newtonian principles in a vacuum rather than maneuvering like aircraft in an atmosphere.
Thought that one was pretty cool.
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Thank you, Kail, but I honestly wasn't offended so no worries. I've seen many of that kind of discussion and believe me, everybody here was quite restrained in comparison to other sites.
Here's a fairly easy trivia question: What's the name of the atmosphere-capable version of the Starfury?
^ Thunderbolt
That doesn't seem entirely correct. Sure, if you limit it to "fighters" it might be correct, but there have been many film spacecraft that fly correctly. Just off the top of my head, 2001 and 2010 did things right.
Way back when, I had an Amiga computer. I attended one local Amiga Users Group meeting, and the big topic of discussion was this new TV show in the works called Babylon 5, and how it was using this new software called Lightwave on this new Amiga peripheral called the Video Toaster. They had a couple of minutes of animation to show. Blew me away. It was a couple of years before The Gathering finally aired. Sadly, I could never afford the Toaster or Lightwave. But it was cool to know that the pilot and some of the first season effects were created on a render farm of the same cool nerd computer I had.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were referring to the Starfury. They are the first small craft that I can remember that used maneuvering jets/thrusters etc. I remember their maneuvers catching my eye when I first watched the series back in 2005. Then of course it was improved upon in nuBSG.
I may be wrong, but I always thought the gunstar from 'The Last Starfighter' was designed with newtonian manoeuvring in mind, even if it wasn't exactly depicted that way in the movie.
One thing that B5 did that most similar shows/movies never seemed to bother with is point out how there's a physical limit to the kinds of crazy manoeuvres they can pull off, not because of the limitations of the craft, but the pilot. Too much delta-v and the pilot will black out, which is not the kind of thing you generally want to do in a dogfight.
Let's just pretend for a second that everything that was said and done here regarding that was over the picture of a 16 year old Bruce Boxleitner wearing nothing but a jockstrap. Somehow I don't thing the majority of people here would be anywhere near as comfortable with that.
Regardless, Claudia isn't here so the "she's OK with it" argument is irrelevant. Go do it on her twitter or facebook account where it will apparently be more appreciated. Bottom line: this isn't the place for that sort of thing, so lets all at least *try* to have a little tact.
Slightly harder trivia question: what's the name of the two-seater version of the Starfury designed and built for 'In The Beginning' be never used on-screen? Bonus point if you can name the episode where an entirely different two-seater fury was briefly seen on-screen.
^ First question: Badger. Second: don't know. 
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