Babylon 5
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I've always believed (and maybe a super-fan like Jan could confirm or deny) that the center of the triluminary was a piece of Sinclair's communicator link. It's established that each link is genetically encoded to it's owner, so that would explain why it responds to his DNA.
As for the series finale, yes it's great. It was actually filmed at the end of Season 4, but held back when the last minute order for Season 5 came in. Though because of this, Season 5 is probably the weakest since the first, and can be bumpy going for some fans. But it has its moments and certainly picks up toward the end. Keep the events of War Without End in mind as you watch.
Season 4, meanwhile, is a roller-coaster!
Exactly!! And thank you for saying so. This isn't a show to put on in the background. If one isn't willing to pay active attention, one shouldn't bother.
While it might make sense, it really can't be.
Because it's made clear that the Minbari brought other humans on board and tested them and the Triluminary confirmed that they also had Minbari souls. I believe this was either in Atonement or in In the Beginning.
We never exactly see how it responds, though. Maybe it reacts in a lesser way to any distantly related DNA (like Delenn, or for that matter any human). I've never really bought the whole "migrating souls" thing, and I believe JMS has said it can be interpreted spiritually or as something genetic.
Just to add to that...
The idea that an EA issue link would still function after 1000 years AND be able to register a DNA match on a 40-odd generation descendent of it's registered user who is technically of a different species is *extremely* far fetched.
Add to that, there are not one but three triluminaries. I'm pretty sure Sinclair didn't have 3 links on him...come to think of it I'm not sure he was wearing an EA link at all.
Add to that, there are not one but three triluminaries. I'm pretty sure Sinclair didn't have 3 links on him...come to think of it I'm not sure he was wearing an EA link at all.
I don't see the souls or DNA explanation as mutually exclusive concepts.
But that's enough spoiler-code talk. Kail might start to get paranoid.
^ Yes, I should have put "and/or"! I also think it might have been the concept behind the piece when it was designed in season 1 (it really looks like a broken link to me), but maybe the idea was jettisoned by season 3.
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^I doubt it given how it seems to serve as THE key piece of the chrysalis machine. It would be a bit odd for such an advanced mechanism to require the incorporation of an alien and comparatively primitive devise that isn't even designed for that purpose. It'd be like your computer requiring a flint and tinder to boot up.
Also, the facts remain remain that 1) there are three of them 2) we saw them among the boxes Zathras was offloading from the White Star 3) we've seen a triluminary used as a stun/stasis device in ("Legacies"), not something links do and 4) if such were the case then JMS would almost certainly have said as much by this point.
Also, the facts remain remain that 1) there are three of them 2) we saw them among the boxes Zathras was offloading from the White Star 3) we've seen a triluminary used as a stun/stasis device in ("Legacies"), not something links do and 4) if such were the case then JMS would almost certainly have said as much by this point.
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I'm just going to chime in to say that while it's been years since I've seen Z'ha'dum (the episode or the planet, take your pick!), so I'm not comfortable speaking to its strengths as an episode (memories are that it's just a bit deliberately paced...quite possibly intentionally), the final act is pure greatness. The music, the visuals, the sense of everything going to Hell (more seriously than usual this time!)...and G'kar's closing narration of course.
As for who built the triluminaries?
I still think Sinclair built them himself. That bit in the center is obviously from an EA Comlink. And it's entirely possible that the last Babylon 4 crew left some more comlinks lying around when they hastily evacuated the station, so Sinclair would have a ready made supply of them to use. And we really have no idea how long a Comlink is supposed to last, do we?
It's kind of interesting how people talk about Sleeping in Light and it makes the Objects episodes feel really underrated. I liked Sleeping in Light too, but Objects in Motion and Objects at Rest were awesome in their own right. It was kind of like what Enterprise did with Demons and Terra Prime being series finales and TATV serving as an overall finale.
Watch and find out. Farscape is one of my favorite shows ever, but I understand it probably isn't for everyone. Don't want to exceed expectations afterall.
I'd say it's an entirely different kind of good.
Farscape had no grand plan, featured a smaller rotating cast, a more comic and deliberately weird sensibility and a much heavier focus on interpersonal drama.
Really, aside from both Farscape and B5 being space based science fiction shows that pushed the envelope, each in their own way, they really have next to nothing in common.
I suppose what I'm getting at is that liking one, doesn't necessarily follow that liking the other is a foregone conclusion.
Either way, it's worth checking out.
I've been loving this thread and started off my own re-watch last week (my first since the show was on the air). I was only a casual viewer until season 3 when it first aired with High School, College, and the Marine Corps being distractions. Like some other folks here, the premiere of season 1 snuck passed me and I think, "A Voice in the Wilderness" was my first episode after the, "The Gathering". The story holds up very well and there aren't many clunkers even in season 1.
In my old age I am more inclined to forgive the production values, they did an AMAZING job with what they had, but I don't remember the music being as bad as it was in the first half of season 1. The music was pretty much the only thing that threatened to take me out of some of the early episodes. I will also say Delenn's makeup in "The Gathering" was not meant for 65 inches of HD
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In my old age I am more inclined to forgive the production values, they did an AMAZING job with what they had, but I don't remember the music being as bad as it was in the first half of season 1. The music was pretty much the only thing that threatened to take me out of some of the early episodes. I will also say Delenn's makeup in "The Gathering" was not meant for 65 inches of HD
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JMS has said where they come from....
...though not who made them.
As will be noted in an upcoming episode, the Triluminaries originally came
from Epsilon 3 with the other equipment brought aboard by Zathras.
jms
http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-10312
As will be noted in an upcoming episode, the Triluminaries originally came
from Epsilon 3 with the other equipment brought aboard by Zathras.
jms
http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-10312
Far better.
Agreed. I'd say that Farscape, while not as good as Babylon 5, is good in it's own way, and yeah, worth checking out.
Farscape is on my Netflixs list for a re-watch as well. I lost track of that show sometime around the point where the crew was duplicated.
Back to B5...it was crazy seeing Jeffrey Combs without alien makeup in "Eyes".
Back to B5...it was crazy seeing Jeffrey Combs without alien makeup in "Eyes".
First time watching the series on DVD, I was surprised that was Jeffrey Combs. He really was everywhere.
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