They never listen to Zathras either.Yes, they added the line to the second version. I personally thought they shouldn't have, but they never listen to me.
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Years ago a friend said "of course the Shadows are wearing encounter suits, I mean they may not have to hide who they are like the Vorlons do, but they probably don't want to walk around naked either."
Lyta made a Shadows head explode.
Blood and brains everywhere.
Not an encounter suit.
However the whole telepaths vs. Shadow ships, the army of light telepaths were not attacking the shadow tech, or the living ships, or the Shadow pilots, the army of light telepaths were hacking the regular people who had been kidnapped and bolted into the machine to be used as CPUs.
Making the head of a million year old Shadow explode is orders of magnitude more difficult than hacking a human dope hard wired into a mainframe, but then Lyta is a telepathic atom bomb.
Lyta made a Shadows head explode.
Blood and brains everywhere.
Not an encounter suit.
However the whole telepaths vs. Shadow ships, the army of light telepaths were not attacking the shadow tech, or the living ships, or the Shadow pilots, the army of light telepaths were hacking the regular people who had been kidnapped and bolted into the machine to be used as CPUs.
Making the head of a million year old Shadow explode is orders of magnitude more difficult than hacking a human dope hard wired into a mainframe, but then Lyta is a telepathic atom bomb.
FWIW, Lyta just froze it while G'Kar splattered it with a PPG. Not dissimilar to Londo's guards offing Morden's companions.
That's what I thought at first, too, but on a second look, G'Kar is chastising Lyta for exploding the Shadow's head even though he had it dead to rights and was about to shoot. I'd thought they were just talking about freezing it in place, but I think it makes more sense if Lyta did the whole thing. Plus, there's no PPG sound or light.
G'KAR: I told you I had him in my sights. Squeezing his neurons was quite unnecessary.
LYTA: Yeah, well, squeezing his brains made me feel a lot better about what's coming.
I'd have to watch again, as I thought it showed G'Kar with a PPG in hand. The script has it as 'freezing' and then 'squeezing'.
That does bring up one point, though.
Lyta got her huge boost of powers when she went into Vorlon space, which would have been sometime between late 2259 and early 2260. But that scene seems to take place in 2258... so how is she able to even stop a Shadow like she did? She was only a P5 before the Vorlons altered her.
Lyta got her huge boost of powers when she went into Vorlon space, which would have been sometime between late 2259 and early 2260. But that scene seems to take place in 2258... so how is she able to even stop a Shadow like she did? She was only a P5 before the Vorlons altered her.
Interesting point. Did we ever seen her go against an individual Shadow, though? I only recall her going all black-eyed against the Shadow Ships. Could be that individuals are more susceptible to psi interference at close range?
In the universe the TV show took place she was initially a P5. What if in the animated version's universe Lyta is stronger.
Certainly possible.
Perhaps she, rather than Talia Winters, was gifted by Jason Ironheart.
The Road Home was actually pretty good. Almost a proof of concept of what an animated series could look like rather than a cohesive narrative, though. I would like to see an actual writers room if they're going to do a live action series, though. JMS hasn't had the best writing skills since Season 4.
Interludes and examinations s03e15.
Garibaldi talks about due process and Earth Force Regulations a lot while investigating the monkey on Stephen's back, and how handling this investigation indelicately will ruin Stephens career in Earth Force, and endanger his medical license.
Is Garlibaldi dumb, drunk or was this story supposed to originally air before Severed Dreams?
Stephen's current status on Earth:
Suspended Medical license, charged and found guilty in absentia of treason, sedition, grand theft space station, murder and probably paedophilia.
Does Garibaldi think his reports are still being sent up the chain?
There are no rules any more Michael!
It's like how Doc Cotton on Battlestar didn't have to not smoke in front of patients while treating patients post robot apicalypse.
Garibaldi talks about due process and Earth Force Regulations a lot while investigating the monkey on Stephen's back, and how handling this investigation indelicately will ruin Stephens career in Earth Force, and endanger his medical license.
Is Garlibaldi dumb, drunk or was this story supposed to originally air before Severed Dreams?
Stephen's current status on Earth:
Suspended Medical license, charged and found guilty in absentia of treason, sedition, grand theft space station, murder and probably paedophilia.
Does Garibaldi think his reports are still being sent up the chain?
There are no rules any more Michael!
It's like how Doc Cotton on Battlestar didn't have to not smoke in front of patients while treating patients post robot apicalypse.
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Up until the embargo after the end of the Shadow War (hell, to an extent, up until B5 and the renegade Earth ships started forcibly extracting planets from Clark's authority) there seemed to be an impression that the whole Earth Alliance Civil War was just going to blow over at some point, Clark would lose an election or get impeached, and everything would go back to normal. Despite the new uniforms, they really seemed to be avoiding thinking about the implications of declaring independence until Clark forced them to.
As real-world politics has demonstrated in recent years, going into denial about the reality of the situation is in point of fact something people do en masse sometimes.
It's a wonder she could hold down her job in the launderette as well.
Doc Cottle and Dot Cotton should date.
Is there a weird cigarette you can smoke from both ends romantically, Lady and the Tramp style?
S03E18 Walkabout.
So Stephen is fine with sleeping with a junkie, but he can't stomach being with a sick person.
This has something to do with Doctors thinking of them selves as gods, and it's harder to do that if your girlfriend is dying, or dead.
Although, as a junkie himself, maybe "Steve" thought that if he could fix her, for practice, then fixing himself wouldn't be so hard?
So Stephen is fine with sleeping with a junkie, but he can't stomach being with a sick person.
This has something to do with Doctors thinking of them selves as gods, and it's harder to do that if your girlfriend is dying, or dead.
Although, as a junkie himself, maybe "Steve" thought that if he could fix her, for practice, then fixing himself wouldn't be so hard?
I only know that when they make a vape that does that, you won't get a cent from them. Bastards.
So Morden is using commercial shuttle liners to traverse space from a to b, so that he can pass for a nobody.
Cool?
But what about the 4 or 5 gorilla sized invisible spider monsters hanging out with him?
Pick one...
1. Morden buys two seats for each Shadow, but because they are invisible, he looks like he is stuck up.
2. Morden charters staterooms on the liner or sleeping coaches intended for a large group or family.
3. The Shadows split up, and each hide in a different toilet for the 4 day trip from Centauri Prime to Babylon 5.
4. The invisible Shadows fuck up the ceiling with their dagger feet, skittering around upside down, on the ceiling.
5. The Shadows don't travel with Morden, but there are Shadows already there, whereever he is going, who live on places like Babylon 5, and meet Morden at customs, to hear word from home, and find out what they are going to do next to forward the grand plan.
6. The Shadows travel as cargo in steamer trunks.
7. The Shadows dig in to the hull from the outside and cling to the ship as it zips through real space and hyper space at ludicrous speed.
8. Million year old multi trillionaire space gods, the Shadows purchased a fleet of passenger liners 10 years ago, and went into business as inter galactic travel entrepreneurs. Hell, they may even be the pilots driving these ships in and out of port and paying the docking fees.
9. Shadows can look human when they want to.
10. The Shadows, are inside Morden, like Kosh or AlKosh was inside Lyta.
Cool?
But what about the 4 or 5 gorilla sized invisible spider monsters hanging out with him?
Pick one...
1. Morden buys two seats for each Shadow, but because they are invisible, he looks like he is stuck up.
2. Morden charters staterooms on the liner or sleeping coaches intended for a large group or family.
3. The Shadows split up, and each hide in a different toilet for the 4 day trip from Centauri Prime to Babylon 5.
4. The invisible Shadows fuck up the ceiling with their dagger feet, skittering around upside down, on the ceiling.
5. The Shadows don't travel with Morden, but there are Shadows already there, whereever he is going, who live on places like Babylon 5, and meet Morden at customs, to hear word from home, and find out what they are going to do next to forward the grand plan.
6. The Shadows travel as cargo in steamer trunks.
7. The Shadows dig in to the hull from the outside and cling to the ship as it zips through real space and hyper space at ludicrous speed.
8. Million year old multi trillionaire space gods, the Shadows purchased a fleet of passenger liners 10 years ago, and went into business as inter galactic travel entrepreneurs. Hell, they may even be the pilots driving these ships in and out of port and paying the docking fees.
9. Shadows can look human when they want to.
10. The Shadows, are inside Morden, like Kosh or AlKosh was inside Lyta.
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I would say 9, or a variant of 7... the shadow ship enters the sector cloaked....flies up to babylon 5 , and digs in (or has a hatch already set up by agents), and undetected due to being on the station and off sensor range)
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