Axanar found 100K to cut from their budget....
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Star Trek Continues has been pretty good about this. That seems to be in part because they wait until the film is almost complete to announce a release date. Most fan productions simply avoid posting release dates at all. Suddenly ZOOM, it pops up on one of the many automatic tracking feeds I set up... and I pass it along to anyone who decided that they want to watch Star Trek Fan Films but not to devote their lives to following their production. Aside from the notable exception of STC, and the workaround at least half of fan films follow (you can't give the wrong date if you give no date) I would say it's clearly (and yes, I track this specifically but not statistically) less than 10 percent, possibly less than 5 percent that announce release dates long in advance and strick with their original date.First off, what percentage of fanfilms ever finish/release on their announced schedule?
I thought I did address your question to the best of my ability.
I don't know where you're getting your information; five days into the Kickstarter Campaign on the wayback, the following information is posted in the total budget breakdown:
Set Construction: $100,000
Sound Stage: $125,000
It's right there from the beginning.
Star Trek Continues has been pretty good about this. That seems to be in part because they wait until the film is almost complete to announce a release date.First off, what percentage of fanfilms ever finish/release on their announced schedule?
Star Trek Continues, has seemed to have found a rhythm that works for them... two shoots, two episodes per year.... they premier them at CONs so the release date, seems to be announced after the episode has been completed for the next available biggish Con...
Which makes sense....
This is not correct. The general release date (the month it will be released in) is known by the production heads before we shoot the episode. Just because we don't announce it doesn't mean we don't know when it will be ready; we do. Arranging and firming up the premier is usually why the date is not released.
Yeah, it was clear from quite early on (I don't know if literally from Day One but from quite early on). In view of which it's rather baffling that some people still think the "Axanar totally pulled a fast one with this studio business" business has legs as a controversy. I'm trying to understand it but thus far the angle's appeal remains largely inscrutable.
Axanar budgeted 125K in studio rental for 2 years, in that kickstarter, they spent 150K for a studio for 1 year. Keep in mind, that when I asked them directly on their FB page, they indicated that the budget on with the Indigogo, didn't include the month to month rental on the studio (Some 13K per month) that begins in February 16....
the bulk of the rest of the 650K which they raised went into fitting out the warehouse they rented... while their initial budget had that price tag at somewhere around 150K
Are we back to arguing over the budget again?
The Kickstarter originally claimed the entire production, from soup to nuts, would clock in at $650,000 (with $350,000 budgeted for the cost of the actual production).
Ultimately, the Kickstarter raised about $638,000. Minus the stated 20% for perks and payment processing, that means they raised $510,000 for the film. Almost all of that cash has been spent at this point. In total, there's about ninety seconds of live action footage to show for it.
Detractors and supporters, of course, will spin this in different ways.
The Kickstarter originally claimed the entire production, from soup to nuts, would clock in at $650,000 (with $350,000 budgeted for the cost of the actual production).
Ultimately, the Kickstarter raised about $638,000. Minus the stated 20% for perks and payment processing, that means they raised $510,000 for the film. Almost all of that cash has been spent at this point. In total, there's about ninety seconds of live action footage to show for it.
Detractors and supporters, of course, will spin this in different ways.
Phaleeeeseee not that discussion again.
They have said over and over again that they didn´t get the deal on the warehouse that they were promised, so they found another, but that was more expensive. And that all the costs they had though were covered turned out to be set too low, plus lots of unexpected costs. That´s the price if you want to do it "right" and are not an expert in the field. You try to estimate is as good as you can, ask experts, but in the end it is going to cost more. I´m sure it´ll be all summed up nicely in their annual report. The good thing is - once all this is set up and running, the actual shoot should run much more smoothly and with less improvised look.
They have said over and over again that they didn´t get the deal on the warehouse that they were promised, so they found another, but that was more expensive. And that all the costs they had though were covered turned out to be set too low, plus lots of unexpected costs. That´s the price if you want to do it "right" and are not an expert in the field. You try to estimate is as good as you can, ask experts, but in the end it is going to cost more. I´m sure it´ll be all summed up nicely in their annual report. The good thing is - once all this is set up and running, the actual shoot should run much more smoothly and with less improvised look.
But is maurice's basic point correct? As of this moment all of that money has resulted in 90 seconds of footage?
In terms of finished film, yes. In terms of the production as a whole, cameras are set to roll in less than two months. I don't know when they announced the start of shooting, but it's been out there for a while. Sets are being completed, costumes are being prepared, etc. etc.
If you're interested, sign up for the axanar blog, there's some pretty fun info on progress so far (and occasionally, those despised cat posts).
The only people who should be that concerned with their progress (or lack of it) are those who donated (I didn't).
For the rest of you folks, they've been pretty good at publishing information on their goings on, on their budgets and costs. Dunno if they've ever admitted to or explained why costs are going up from the original ESTIMATES, but I haven't seen any indications of them having pulled a fast one. FTR, considering the amount of money they have raised, I do think they should be getting a move on the project, but that's a different complaint.
If you're interested, sign up for the axanar blog, there's some pretty fun info on progress so far (and occasionally, those despised cat posts).
The only people who should be that concerned with their progress (or lack of it) are those who donated (I didn't).
For the rest of you folks, they've been pretty good at publishing information on their goings on, on their budgets and costs. Dunno if they've ever admitted to or explained why costs are going up from the original ESTIMATES, but I haven't seen any indications of them having pulled a fast one. FTR, considering the amount of money they have raised, I do think they should be getting a move on the project, but that's a different complaint.
Truly, our cup runneth over.
Actually it's more like 117 minutes short of what was promised as a result of that Kickstarter....
They raised that roughly 650K and came back asking for 1.2 M more.....
I never said any such thing.