Aviation Geeks unite?! Anybody else care about planes here?
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Hold a moment......... Here's a whole pile of them
https://www.google.com/search?newwi...AhUGA3IKHeB6CRoQjJkEegQIAhAB&biw=1472&bih=687
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_M-15_Belphegor
Seems this is the only jet powered biplane that made it into production.
And I found a bubble cockpit aircraft..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_29_(STOL)
Seems this is the only jet powered biplane that made it into production.
And I found a bubble cockpit aircraft..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_29_(STOL)
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And that's what happens when you let bureaucrats (probably local party officals) in on the design process. Crop dusters need to be low and slow (same thing for anti-submarine work - aircraft like the P3Cs are being replaced by the P-8A Poseidons which have less than half the range).
Not sure why you want to put a jet engine on a bi-plane or why in the age of jet engines you'd even consider building a bi-plane.
I know some bi-planes are built for acrobatics where the shorter wings are held (the Pitts Special comes to mind) but other than....
Neat
And another neat design though funding was eventually cut
And another neat design though funding was eventually cut
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A jet trainer from Poland, nice looking aircraft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-11_Iskra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_TS-11_Iskra
DoJ have completed their investigation in the 737-MAX.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01...ce-department-747-max-deadly-crashes/13041586
the company is going to be $US2.5billion out of pocket in fines and compensation.
the criminal penalty for their actions is $US243Mil, $1.8Bil will go as compensation to the airlines who had to ground their planes and the families of the crash victims will share in $US500mil.
They are also party to a deferred prosecution agreement which will last for 3 years applying the 1 count of attempting to defraud the United States.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01...ce-department-747-max-deadly-crashes/13041586
the company is going to be $US2.5billion out of pocket in fines and compensation.
the criminal penalty for their actions is $US243Mil, $1.8Bil will go as compensation to the airlines who had to ground their planes and the families of the crash victims will share in $US500mil.
They are also party to a deferred prosecution agreement which will last for 3 years applying the 1 count of attempting to defraud the United States.
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That's not enough IMO, they need to penalize them more!!!
and it seems the company is being penalised by those who made the actual decisions are avoiding the full consequences.
I'm sure if anyone at the board level or close to it goes they'll get a nice golden parachute.
No doubt some of the lower level management types will get unceremoniously fired and carry 100% of the blame.
Those that made the bad decision should go to jail.
boeing will probably just claim a tax deduction for it.
That's the implication: When you develop a new aircraft, budget enough that you can cut corners on safety, just in case you kill a planeload or two of people.
Rocket people are more careful to not change the mold lines of the vehicle.
Here they tacked on engines on an airframe not designed for then—then tried to fix the change in flight characteristics with a software patch.
Ugh.
If everything is going the way of ugly twinjets, that can be deadly as 9/11 type weapons, maybe we can replace them with airships with gentler handling.
Here they tacked on engines on an airframe not designed for then—then tried to fix the change in flight characteristics with a software patch.
Ugh.
If everything is going the way of ugly twinjets, that can be deadly as 9/11 type weapons, maybe we can replace them with airships with gentler handling.
Or force Boeing into a "Clean Sheet" modern design.
PropFan engined aircraft have better fuel efficiency than the current ducted fan at the cost of external noise.
This is based on the napkin math I did on the latest GE engines compared to the specific Fuel Consumption of the 1980's UDF (UnDucted Fan) ProtoTypes.
Even the latest & greatest FADEC controlled TurboFan is barely catching up to Early 1980's PropFan fuel efficiency.
But during the early 1980's once the Oil Crisis went away, the Airline industry didn't want to change because it would be a huge logistics cost to re-train, certify, and adjust everybody to new PropFan engines.
That's why the Airline industry has been using less Fuel Efficient Engines for their targeted air speed of ~Mach 0.65-0.80 since then.
There was an option, they just refused to pay the high one time upfront cost to get there for future returns on fuel savings.
The Russians moved their PropFan to the Front:
Only now is there even remote interest in bringing back PropFan tech.
I personally want them to design a Prop fan where one High Bypass Rotor is mounted Fore of the intake cowling and one is mounted Aft of the cowling.
A nice mix of US & Russian designs.
That should help alleviate some of the noise issues.
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but they didn't want to do that - it would have cost them money.
instead they recycled the 737 again and tried dirty tricks to stop competition from the Bombadier C series (now the Airbus A200).
Though Airbus has done a bit the same with refreshing the A321 with the Neo range.
I don't give a shit how much it costs, after this 737 MAX debacle, they need to do ALOT more to prove themselves.
More of the same "Bean Counter" run system isn't going to instill faith into me.
Typical Company run by "Bean Counters". Instead of engineering a better solution, they cheat.
The Boeing 737 line had it's original AirFrame designed & Test Flown in 1967
The AirBus A320 line had it's original AirFrame designed & Test Flown in 1987
AirBus made smarter decisions by engineering their AirFrame later than Boeing with 20 years more of AeroSpace knowledge and making a more flexible platform.
The 737 AirFrame design is TOO old in comparison and you get this kind of debacle because you modified the airframe beyond what you should've done.
Not aviation but thought this was fun
