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How do you rate "Avengers: Infinity War"?

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Reverend said:
You know it occurs to me that this assertion was made without being tested. Maybe the elevator wouldn't go up or down at all... ;)

Vision himself says quite explicitly he's not JARVIS.
That aside, in AoU Tony describes JARVIS as starting out as a "natural language user interface" and that "now he runs the Iron Legion and more of the business than anyone besides Pepper."
Indeed, that scene makes it abundantly clear that JARVIS isn't an AI because Bruce and Tony are marvelling at the *possibility* of AI being achievable with the aid of the Sceptre. I mean, you can't marvel at the possibility of something you've already done, no?
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In other words JARVIS is a really well made/ programmed SaaS.
 
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. Thanos has the reality stone along with the others, he can change reality itself, are those people that flew away in a dust cloud just dead or did they never exist at all after the rewite of everything? IOW, would they be missed? I'm sure things would seem emptier than before but there would still be over 3 billion people on Earth which is still a lot considering the population only hit 3 billion around 1960. Would the change have rewritten text books to say the total world population is inline with the new reality as a clue to the change? Other than people that have just watched friends or family disappear, the general population might forget soon there was a difference. Even the people that did lose someone close, if the photos are gone and the records are gone, they might seem as if a dream of them is all that's left.
 
They seem to be remembered, despite the Reality, Mind and Soul stones working together being easily able to wipe those memories.

I mean there's the physical evidence left behind anyway. Thanos wants them all to remember what happened, to scare them into behaving. Just leaving them with a mystery wouldn't really accomplish that.
 
The movie will be out tomorrow on Sky Movies in the uk. Their little Christmas gift for their subscribers
 
Just watched it on Netflix last night.

Arguably the best of the Marvel movies because it brilliantly ties in together all the others while giving every major character something to do.

Of course, there are nitpicks. If Wanda can destroy one stone, why couldn't she destroy others and just go after the glove?
 
Kirk Prime said:
Of course, there are nitpicks. If Wanda can destroy one stone, why couldn't she destroy others and just go after the glove?
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We saw how hard it was for her to take out just one, so it would undoubtedly be even harder to take out more, especially when housed in the Gauntlet. Plus, you know, while also fending off attacks from Thanos at the same time.

They didn't have much time to game plan that part of the attack because they didn't know if and when he would show up or how powerful he would be. At that point, they were solidly playing defense and getting their asses kicked.
 
No one even seemed to think of it. If she was that powerful, a coordinated attack similar to what Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Spidey and the Guardians did with Wanda going after the stones themselves, might have been the way to go.

I guess the biggest complaint would be the treatment of Hulk, but in fairness, the story isn't over yet, and I think we can expect something major in Endgame involving the big green guy. Can't judge it until it's over.

One of my favorite parts, and the attention to detail was kind of awesome, was in Wakanda when the heroes were meeting the villains in an old school Game of Thrones type charge. You see Cap and Black Panther sprinting ahead of the pack because they can. I don't know why, but that two second clip was kind of awesome for me.

Another nitpick was how the bad guys were able to break through the dome. Yes, some of them died in the attempt, but a shield like that in all fairness, was not effective at all. They got in.
 
Kirk Prime said:
Just watched it on Netflix last night.

Arguably the best of the Marvel movies because it brilliantly ties in together all the others while giving every major character something to do.

Of course, there are nitpicks. If Wanda can destroy one stone, why couldn't she destroy others and just go after the glove?
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They said that Wanda could destroy that one Stone because she got her powers from being exposed to its energies, that commonality is what allowed her to do that. And they weren't even sure it would work until they were forced into it.
 
Another thought--how would the battle of Wakanda have gone under the leadership of Killmonger?

Would it have gone better? Would Killmonger have chosen to fight the forces of Thanos head on and if so, would have have had a better battle plan?

Would the battle have even taken place in Wakanda? Killmonger would have no loyalty to Captain America, but he might see the true threat and meet the battle head on rather than let lesser forces fight Thanos. In fact, had he remained in power, an expanded Wakandan army likely would have been the only force capable of providing any resistance.
 
Anwar said:
They said that Wanda could destroy that one Stone because she got her powers from being exposed to its energies, that commonality is what allowed her to do that. And they weren't even sure it would work until they were forced into it.
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Yup, they mention the energy being at the same resonance or something, overloading the Mind stone by amplifying it's own power back at it.

The Tesseract and other housings might also have been to stop a feedback like that happening with the others. The Gauntlet is probably doing a lot of work constantly to keep the stones stable.
 
Thanos, in general, is remarkably unvengeful.

Hulk attacks him and Thanos knocks him out, but doesn’t finish him. Thor attacks him, and he gets bound in metal until Thanos and his Children leave.

Drax and Mantis try to attack him, and he Realityfies them temporarily until he leaves. Quill threatens to blow that nut sack of a chin right off his face, then tries to stop him by Gamora, and Thanos simply says “I like you” and leaves.

Strange admits to killing Maw, and Thanos laments the “heavy toll” but shows no anger and doesn’t punish Strange. The Guardians and Avengers who attack him and he defeats them then lets them be.

In Wakanda a bunch of heroes attack him and he uses his powers to get them out of the way without killing or injuring them. Even Thor, who buries an axe in Thanos’s chest, faces no consequences for that act.

Loki is a special situation since he had asked to be treated as a traitorous subordinate rather than a defeated foe. He, unprompted, pledged his loyalty on pain of death then immediately committed an act of disloyalty. So yeah, of course he dies. Nebula could also fit in the “traitorous subordinate” category given their history.

But what about Heimdall? Killing him really doesn’t seem to fit Thanos’s pattern. Why did he merit death for his interference, when none of the other heroes did?
 
He phased Banner inside solid rock and smashed Steve's skull in, and even though they got time saved, he ripped the only thing keeping Vision alive out of his head.

He left Thor to be vapourised or suffocate painfully slowly.

But then, this is a being that's murdered so many billions he's indifferent to death generally. Hence his entire plan.
 
Kemaiku said:
He phased Banner inside solid rock and smashed Steve's skull in, and even though they got time saved, he ripped the only thing keeping Vision alive out of his head.
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No indication Banner was hurt. He was merely rocked in enough to immobilize the suit and trap him. As for the right cross to Steve’s head, if Thanos wanted that blow to shatter his skull, it would have.

Vision’s death wasn’t punishment for interference, it was simply necessary in order to get the Stone.

He left Thor to be vapourised or suffocate painfully slowly.
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Not as punishment for interference. Thor was simply part of a culling. Thanos let half the people on the Statesman get away and then blew up the other half, and Thanos was in the other half.
 
After the battle outside the Sanctum, Banner finds the Rogers flip phone on the street and decides to use it. How does it get there?

Stark is not holding it when he turns into Iron Man. If he has already dropped it, why? If he hasn’t, and it’s in his pocket when the armor forms around him, how does it get outside the armor?

(On a related note, when Stark says that Rogers can probably find Vision, why does Strange groan like this is bad news? That Stark knows someone who can probably find Vision is very good news, isn’t it? The fact that Rogers is on the run with the guy who murdered Stark’s parents might make the conversation awkward, but given the current stakes, that hardly seems important. And if Tony isn’t comfortable making the call, Banner, who is still on friendly terms with Rogers, is right there and able to make the call.)
 
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