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Spoilers Avengers: Endgame grade and discussion thread

How do you rate Avengers: Endgame?


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I've heard a lot of complaints about it. It was a photo-op but I thought it was well done and a good way of highlighting the fact that they've managed to establish a pretty good cast of female heroes, despite having only one female led movie so far.

I had more issues with a similar scene in Age of Ultron when the Avengers lined up for a promo shot in the opening battle. That felt more forced (to me) than the scene in Endgame.
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It was forced, but they were going for there's a panel from a comic book come to life. It's something we haven't really gotten before. We'd get single superheroes, but not an entire team. It's silly, but having every single Avenger in one shot is kinda cool.
 
It was forced, but they were going for there's a panel from a comic book come to life. It's something we haven't really gotten before. We'd get single superheroes, but not an entire team. It's silly, but having every single Avenger in one shot is kinda cool.

I don't disagree, it definitely looks cool. But I think they did that team shot better in the first Avengers movie. Twice!
 
It was forced, but they were going for there's a panel from a comic book come to life. It's something we haven't really gotten before. We'd get single superheroes, but not an entire team. It's silly, but having every single Avenger in one shot is kinda cool.
We got a group shot of the entire group in the first Avengers movie.
The revolving camera shot during the battle of NY.
There was also the shot mentioned a few posts earlier of the group jumping in Age of Ultron
 
I don't disagree, it definitely looks cool. But I think they did that team shot better in the first Avengers movie. Twice!
It is a better one. Still, I can’t blame Whedon for using it. If I got to direct an Avengers movie, I’d want a money shot like that. You get all those heroes to play with and you need at least one or two of them all together. It’s a big crowd pleaser too. The biggest being Endgame’s Avengers Assemble which was so amazing to see onscreen that I got emotional seeing all these heroes I had grown to love about kick Thanos’ ass. Especially my precious Spidey.

We got a group shot of the entire group in the first Avengers movie.
The revolving camera shot during the battle of NY.
There was also the shot mentioned a few posts earlier of the group jumping in Age of Ultron
The AoU shot was what I was referring to.
 
I've heard a lot of complaints about it. It was a photo-op but I thought it was well done and a good way of highlighting the fact that they've managed to establish a pretty good cast of female heroes, despite having only one female led movie so far.

I had more issues with a similar scene in Age of Ultron when the Avengers lined up for a promo shot in the opening battle. That felt more forced (to me) than the scene in Endgame.
avengers-age-of-ultron-team-shot.jpg

Meh it was forced but I had no issue with it, marvel has cool women heroes I don't see why anyone would have an issue with them having a "moment" unless they are just a miserable person.
 
We got a group shot of the entire group in the first Avengers movie.
The revolving camera shot during the battle of NY.
THAT worked (the revolving camera shot from The Avengers). It was iconic and I get a bit of a buzz just reliving it. I don't know why some moments actually work and yet others don't. The all female shot in Endgame doesn't give rise to what it might have tried to do, it's composed and try-hard. Compared to that sweet moment in the first Avengers which was so cool and organically naturally fits in the movie. Try as they might subsequent group shots have never inspired the 'assemble' feel of the oirginal.
 
With that in mind, it is a bit strange that he and Hill didn't show up for the climatic battle. Sure, all they would've been doing were shooting guns...but that was all Bucky and Sam were doing, if just with some enhancements.

Possibly due to Samuel L. Jackson's contract? If they had him do speaking parts it would have used up an appearance. Who knows, maybe they didn't even film him for the funeral and just used stock footage. They obviously CGI'd some faces onto 'placeholder' bodies for that funeral ending.
 
With that in mind, it is a bit strange that he and Hill didn't show up for the climactic battle. Sure, all they would've been doing were shooting guns...but that was all Bucky and Sam were doing, if with just some enhancements.
What the “A-Force” needed was Maria Hill firing a gun and Michelle Jones firing some devastating snark.

Either of those weapons makes at least as much sense as a spear.
 
What the “A-Force” needed was Maria Hill firing a gun and Michelle Jones firing some devastating snark.

Either of those weapons makes at least as much sense as a spear.
I guess you missed the part where those spears are made with Vibranium which enhances their strength and durability and provides electric and sonic capabilities.
 
-So did Tony just pull all the stones off Thanos that quickly without Thanos noticing?
Not exactly. The gauntlet was made of Stark’s nanotechnology and could be controlled by FRIDAY. Stark simply commanded his own nanotech to transfer the Stones from one glove to the other when they were in contact.
 
THAT worked (the revolving camera shot from The Avengers). It was iconic and I get a bit of a buzz just reliving it. I don't know why some moments actually work and yet others don't. The all female shot in Endgame doesn't give rise to what it might have tried to do, it's composed and try-hard. Compared to that sweet moment in the first Avengers which was so cool and organically naturally fits in the movie. Try as they might subsequent group shots have never inspired the 'assemble' feel of the oirginal.
The first Avengers shot makes sense. They were all there. For all women shot, some of them were literally on the other side of the battlefield. For example The Wasp was in that Van which was way away. Plus the fact they all came to help Captain Marvel, the one character that didn't need any help.
 
Not exactly. The gauntlet was made of Stark’s nanotechnology and could be controlled by FRIDAY. Stark simply commanded his own nanotech to transfer the Stones from one glove to the other when they were in contact.
Yeah... no... don't know... best not to think of it.
If the "iron gauntlet" was smart tech, then it would have been programmed to never allow to be worn by Thanos in the first place. Yeah, yeah, they never thought they would face Thanos again, but still a bit of an oversight. How he was able to get a hold of all stones in literally two seconds will probably never be completely explained. Especially since anyone who put on the gauntlet was immediately seen getting a "power surge" of some kind.
 
If the "iron gauntlet" was smart tech, then it would have been programmed to never allow to be worn by Thanos in the first place. Yeah, yeah, they never thought they would face Thanos again, but still a bit of an oversight. How he was able to get a hold of all stones in literally two seconds will probably never be completely explained. Especially since anyone who put on the gauntlet was immediately seen getting a "power surge" of some kind.

Watch Tony's glove after the reveal that Thanos is missing his stones. You'll see the stones migrate across his hand, carried by the nanotech special effect, and settle into their spots on his glove. only then does he get the power surge effect.
 
Endgame - it was great! Not perfect, but really well done. So much to ruminate over... however I find that Infinity War was a better film, more balanced (no pun intended) and I found it more satisfying overall. I think IW is gonna end up being my fave in the MCU.
 
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