Authors: Canon

[flandry84]

Hello!My name is flandry84,you mentioned canon,prepare to die.

 

[JarodRussell]

Go ahead. Make my day.

 

[TheAlmanac]

Re: Authors: Canon / Continuity

^That's exactly my point. Hawai'i is still a physically separate entity from North America even though it has a political connection to a nation located in North America. The political connection does not create a physical connection, and the two identities should not be confused. By the same token, if a Trek novel and the onscreen canon share continuity, that still doesn't mean the novel is part of canon, because canon and continuity are two separate things that should not be confused. There are multiple ways of defining identity, and canon is only one very limited concept that people tend to mistakenly equate with other forms of identity.

...but my point is that the form of identity "continent" is one that changes depending on who you ask, even when you're asking people whose job it is to define it, so (IMHO) your point is poorly made by using as an analogy a single term with multiple conflicting definitions.

 

[Christopher]

Re: Authors: Canon / Continuity

^No analogy is exact; it's merely meant to convey an impression. Most people are not familiar with any such debates over the definition of the word "continent"; to any given reader of this BBS, the distinction between a continent and an island will be obvious, and therefore it is an effective metaphorical vehicle for conveying my point. If you insist that every analogy be absolutely letter-perfect and immune from technical nitpickery, then you're forbidding any analogy from ever being utilized at all, unless you limit it to an Objectivist "A is A."

And don't canon debates get messy enough without bringing in spurious nitpicks totally unrelated to the topic?

 

[rahullak]

Like a Corollary to a Theorem. The Corollary can never be the Theorem itself, but is merely an extension. Is this analogy ok?

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Authors: Canon / Continuity

And don't canon debates get messy enough without bringing in spurious nitpicks totally unrelated to the topic?

I think that entire canon debate is off topic. You answered my question anyways (thank you for that ), there was actually no need for debate.

 

[TerriO]

Re: Authors: Canon / Continuity

Just because there seems to be no need for something never meant this group wouldn't do it anyway, Jarod.

 

[Rush Limborg]

PLEASE...NO...MORE...CANNNNNNNNNNNNNONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!

 

[Mike Farley]

Re: Authors: Canon / Continuity

I think that entire canon debate is off topic. You answered my question anyways (thank you for that ), there was actually no need for debate.

You're new around here, huh?

 

[plynch]

Re: Authors: Canon / Continuity

In other words, that definition is not as rock-solid as you make it out to be.

Nice geology figure of speech.

 

[Rush Limborg]

From Star Trek's protective shield: cast Canoninium.

This is the hardest substance...known to our science.

(SMASH! SHATTER!)

The lab theorizes...a high-energy Abrams Plasma.

 

[TheAlmanac]

And don't canon debates get messy enough without bringing in spurious nitpicks totally unrelated to the topic?

I didn't feel it was a "spurious nitpick," just a way of pointing out (within the analogy) that there is always more than one way of looking at this sort of thing...

In the sense that debate on the topic rages on--which the people debating it take very seriously, despite the fact that most of the general public is unaware a debate even exists--it's actually an excellent analogy.

In other words, that definition is not as rock-solid as you make it out to be.

Nice geology figure of speech.

Thanks...I'm glad someone picked up on it, and that's a compliment I'd be proud to put on my mantle.

 

[Cuhl]

^
Gneiss pun.

 

[Therin of Andor]

^
Gneiss pun.

Taken for granite.

 

[Cuhl]

^
Gneiss pun.

Taken for granite.

Shale I try again?

 

[David R. George III]

Geez, folks. To what can we chalk up all these puns? I think you're all full of schist.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

^
Gneiss pun.

Taken for granite.

Shale I try again?

Geez, folks. To what can we chalk all these puns? I think you're all full of schist.

I love you guys...

 

[Therin of Andor]

I love you guys...

You're only saying that 'cos you're stoned.

 

[Cuhl]

I love you guys...

We lava you, too.

 

[Cuhl]

Geez, folks. To what can we chalk up all these puns? I think you're all full of schist.

Hmmph. I guess igneous is bliss.