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Look at the first line of that post. What does it say?
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Look at the first line of that post. What does it say?
And yet you go on to say.......
Can you not see where individuals would take umbridge at what you said.
"Just to be clear, I am not in any way talking about denying anyone anything,"
Hurrah!
" I just think the whole diversity/LGBTBBQ (especially the latter, and the only reason I even include the former is because they are lumped together very often) thing has become a bit of a... trendy issue lately."
Oh dear....sigh and you started off with promise
This is giving a thirsty person water to drink, and then peeing in it.
Hurrah!
" I just think the whole diversity/LGBTBBQ (especially the latter, and the only reason I even include the former is because they are lumped together very often) thing has become a bit of a... trendy issue lately."
Oh dear....sigh and you started off with promise
This is giving a thirsty person water to drink, and then peeing in it.
Yes there are people who virtue signal, but they're just as bad (if not worse) than the regular bigots. I understand what you're trying to say, but it still seems to be coming from a place of meeting open mindedness and decency with suspicion. Something which is still a hurdle in trying to create a more respectful and diverse society.
Like I said, I don't blame people for being blind to things, but please try to understand when others are explaining things from their position.
This is exactly what I mean. It's impossible to have a dialogue when you are pontificating from on high.
People in big cities, who interact with diverse neighbors everyday, tend to get along with other types of people quite well. It's people in more isolated, monolithic communities who tend to have a problem with it. It's just a matter of getting accustomed to it as part of everyday life, getting to know people from different groups as individuals rather than abstractions. And the American population is becoming more urban, more cosmopolitan, over time. The younger, "Millennial" generation tends to be much more accepting of diversity as an everyday fact of life than their forebears, which is part of why comic-book characters like Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel and the Miles Morales Spider-Man are so popular with young readers. They just want to see stories that reflect their life, and their life is one where diversity is an everyday fact.
I went to a high school that was more racially integrated than a lot of others in the district, and we'd sometimes get these surveys from the school board asking our thoughts on racial issues... and I and others I talked to found it strange to get asked those questions, because it just wasn't much of an issue for us. We were used to people of different races being our classmates and friends, and interracial romances were treated a lot more casually than they were in society as a whole around that time. Once diversity becomes just part of your everyday life, you realize it's nothing to fear, and the whole idea that it was ever an issue becomes ridiculous in retrospect.
Sorry massa, eyes gon go back an pik de cotton like a good lidle .......
That's nice. But that's not what I am talking about. I went to many schools since I moved around a lot, and yeah, kids don't tend to care about race. But they will later get indoctrinated. People always get more ignorant the more their "pattern forms".
I think all this talk about privilege and gender norms is dangerous for different reasons than, say, the KKK is dangerous. The KKK is worse because they (used to?) actively be violent to people they perceived as different, but it's all the same principal- people thinking that they are doing the right thing (the lord's will, the kind thing, whatever depending on who you're talking about), but causing division.
I'm using a dramatic example that borders on false equivalence to illustrate the fact that people all think they are following some kind of code, and everyone thinks they are right. (expect people like Putin who know but don't care that they are corrupt).
People just aren't mature enough to handle things with an objective hand.
ANY power shift/status quo change will just breed resentment and eventually action from people who feel slighted, justified or not.
You cannot tell me that if we swapped out every person in power now with minorities we wouldn't have the same issues, just in reverse.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT HAVE YOUR TAKE AWAY FROM THIS POST BE THAT I AM A RACIST BIGOT MEANIE BECAUSE I AM NOT, I SEE MYSELF AS A PERSON WHO LOOKS AT THINGS AND DOESN'T LIKE THE ATTITUDES AND CLOSE MINDEDNESS OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW THEY ARE OBJECTIVELY CORRECT ABOUT THE BIG QUESTIONS
You're being purposefully obtuse, my good man.
So the best thing to do is stick our heads in the sand, and hope that pesky strive for equality goes away!
This is exactly what I mean. "My good man" is just a fun turn of phrase, and it is not illogical to think that a person on a Star Trek forum could be a man.
But no, I have to have internalized misogyny and blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda.
Get over it pal.
Also I forgot Uhura's first name until you said that, so her username wasn't jumping out as female at me the way, I dunno, "Sararules" would have.
I don't think it's this way round. As @Christopher said:
Most problems come from a lack of understanding, which generally comes from a lack of experience.
The younger generation is now growing up in a time when people are moving around the globe more freely and easily, (plus numerous global hardships) and with technology which gives you access and communication to the whole world at your finger tips, and will take the respect for diversity they have learned throughout their lives. The current older generation (especially those in more isolated communities who trust what the media says about immigrants etc because they have no evidence to the contrary) who are not as understanding are in part the way they are because they never had this more diverse upbringing.
Not at all. I don't have a solution. I'm just airing misgivings.
Some folks are always resentful of change. They either learn to live with it, or get left behind. You don't stop progress. You don't apologize for progress.
a) why use a gender specifying turn of phrase at all if you are unsure about your counterparts gender, when the sentence is perfectly clear without it?
b) you could look at at her profile page where she is identified as female
Ok?
If that's all you got from my posts that's sad, because that's a mischaracterization/attempt at pigeonholing me.
You have the solution to your problem. You move ahead.
And I have attempted to outline why I think (regrettably) it's not that easy.
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