At what size point do you transition from being a Shuttle / Runabout / StarShip?

[David cgc]

It seems to me that if you have a replicator on board you don't need toilet facilities as the replicator can recycle anything and that includes body wastes.

So, what, they're just supposed to hop up and squeeze onto the replicator's little shelf in the living area? They're Starfleet officers, not wizards. They may not have tanks for black- and graywater, but they'll still want a commode of some sort. At least a little curtain, for dignity.

 

[Discofan]

So, what, they're just supposed to hop up and squeeze onto the replicator's little shelf in the living area? They're Starfleet officers, not wizards. They may not have tanks for black- and graywater, but they'll still want a commode of some sort. At least a little curtain, for dignity.

Remember that Trip's clone talked about peeing in a bottle in the Shuttlepod. There's not much dignity in that, is there?

 

[Discofan]

How about the 24th-century version of adult diapers equipped with a mini-transporter that would send your wastes to the nearest waste recycling facilities. And before you tell me that this is too farfetched, think of the rifle in Field Of Fire that was equipped with such a transporter.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Remember that Trip's clone talked about peeing in a bottle in the Shuttlepod. There's not much dignity in that, is there?

That was a Shuttle Pod, not a RunAbout where it has the full luxuries.
In a large MiniVan or full size Passenger Van, there usually ins't a commode.

The Shuttle Pod in ENT isn't that big.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Should they install mini toilets inside small shuttles that have vacuum suction / matter de-Materializier on board along with extreme air process filtration to get rid of the smell and a curtain for those who need it? It's not a matter of if it can be done, but should it be done.

In your every day mini van, do you carry a small portable toilet?

I know they sell them, but how many people actually want one in their vehicle?

But if you have one, you'll probably need a advanced butt wiper that will scan your butt and de-materialize the crud on your bumm and clean your bumm at the same time.

Do you really want one of those on your shuttle pod?

 

[Discofan]

Well, you can step out of your mini-van whenever you have a pressing need to relieve your bladder, not so much with a Shuttle unless you can find quickly a planet with a breathable atmosphere and land there which is dubious, to say the least.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Well, you can step out of your mini-van whenever you have a pressing need to relieve your bladder, not so much with a Shuttle unless you can find quickly a planet with a breathable atmosphere and land there which is dubious, to say the least.

The question still stands, do you want them to install a mini toilet unit / shower unit.

They obviously have the tech, that's not the issue.

We IRL, have Airline Shower / Bathrooms that are super tiny & space efficient along with designs for Tiny Home Bathrooms.

So it can be done.

Along with tiny showers.

But given the limited volume of a Shuttle and extended missions, do you want them to use that space for a set of tiny bathrooms / showers?

 

[Ithekro]

All you need is something the size of a chair.

 

[David cgc]

Donny put a tiny fold-out head to the rear compartment of the TOS Galileo. It's not hard to believe there'd be ones on other shuttles.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/airplane-bathrooms/?utm_term=.090633559196

https://www.fastcompany.com/90236107/its-not-just-you-heres-why-your-airplane-toilet-feels-tiny

With advanced tiny lavatories like this IRL, I'm sure we can fit one in everything but the smallest of vehicles when moving into the future.

 

[blssdwlf]

But given the limited volume of a Shuttle and extended missions, do you want them to use that space for a set of tiny bathrooms / showers?

I'd like to think that the crew of the Galileo had tossed out their toilet and related waste management equipment to lighten the load

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I'd like to think that the crew of the Galileo had tossed out their toilet and related waste management equipment to lighten the load

You know for a fact that the UFP aren't polluters, they recycle EVERYTHING. So no poo-poo ejected into the vacuum of space for some poor sap to impact at high impulse speeds and cause damage.

 

[Stibbons]

The Heavy Lift Cargo Shuttle by Dana E. Lubich on the Cygnus-X1 Starship Blureprint Database, while not canon in any way, handles the problems with a "waste management transporter" that beams waste matter out of your body to a small incinerator inside the unit.

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/cargo-shuttle.php

No sure I'd have the guts to use one. Or, if I did, I'd have the guts I used to have before using it.

McCoy- "What do you mean you lost your kidney down the toilet?"

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Incinerator, what is this, the 21st century? In ENT they were recycling waste matter into raw matter and converting them into boots! I'm sure by the 24th century and beyond, they would just disassemble the waste matter into it's basic component and add it to the raw matter storage tanks and separate the elements

 

[Ithekro]

McCoy would be all for "You have biological functions. Use them. Don't try to rip my crap out of my intestines and spread its molecules across the stars just so I don't have to sit on a toilet once or twice a day."

 

[blssdwlf]

You know for a fact that the UFP aren't polluters, they recycle EVERYTHING. So no poo-poo ejected into the vacuum of space for some poor sap to impact at high impulse speeds and cause damage.

LOL. They were dumping on the planet as retribution for having a couple of their crew killed. Later in their final act of defiance they self-destructed the Galileo over the planet raining shards of debris all over the locals.

Seriously though, dumping the waste management system would have been inline with the "Galileo Seven" episode to lighten the load in order to make orbit in the damaged shuttle...

 

[Stibbons]

Now I'm reminded of the ending of "Spaced Invaders"...

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From about 1:32:00. "Hit it Giggy".

 

[Continuous Cosmos]

Well there's Runabouts,

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& Shuttles.

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Which are each, of course, shuttlebay small craft;

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[matthunter]

Whatever point you transition at, the GOP are trying to ban it.

You'll live life with the nacelles God gave you, dammit!!

 

[publiusr]

The Heavy Lift Cargo Shuttle by Dana E. Lubich on the Cygnus-X1 Starship Blureprint Database, while not canon in any way, handles the problems with a "waste management transporter" that beams waste matter out of your body to a small incinerator inside the unit.

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/cargo-shuttle.php

No sure I'd have the guts to use one. Or, if I did, I'd have the guts I used to have before using it.

McCoy- "What do you mean you lost your kidney down the toilet?"

So that’s what inspired Seth’s Family Guy episode with “waste beaming.”

I imagine there are wedge shaped utility craft larger than the round Archer class.