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Assignment: Earth and its Status in Canon?

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Ok, I had some thoughts. What if the specific conditions of the cold restart of the engines in "The naked Time" actual changed the nature of the Enterprise's engines, making it possible for them to travel through time. Thus when they broke away from the black star in "All Our Yesterdays" they snapped back in time while any other ship wouldn't have.

Starfleet realizing that the Enterprise is the only ship capable of time travel, it's the Enterprise that gets the assignment to travel back in "Assignment: Earth." Then in the 2270s the nacelles get shipped off to Starfleet research to try and figure out what made them so special.

I like this better than resorting to the "Starfleet classified it" God-of-the-gaps that is so often resorted to. Apart from the Guardian, Time travel was limited to the Enterprise because of some special conditions.

The only problem with this theory is the Bird-of -Prey in The Voyage Home.

There are a lot of people who don't understand what "canon" means.

Yeah. But many of us only care about our personal definition.

Dude, have you watched Discovery?:lol:

Does anybody?
 
It treats time travel casually (Enterprise was given as assignment to study history!?).
By the end of 'The Naked Time' they were already discussing about the possibility of more time travel now that they knew how to do it. If I was watching back in the 60s I would have thought it was going to be not only a exploration of space but of time.
 
I've been slowly rewatching TOS and I have to say I don't understand how Assignment: Earth can be considered canon.
It is never referenced again (outside of the same method of time travel being used in STIV).
The slingshot effect is mentioned again in TNG's "Time Squared" Riker mentions it as a possible explanation for the appearance of the shuttle pod from the future
 
I've been slowly rewatching TOS and I have to say I don't understand how Assignment: Earth can be considered canon.

Because by the only meaningful definition of canon, it is canon.

"This makes sense/doesn't make sense to me" has nothing to do with whether something is part of canon - not a single goddamned thing.
 
Ok, I had some thoughts. What if the specific conditions of the cold restart of the engines in "The naked Time" actual changed the nature of the Enterprise's engines, making it possible for them to travel through time. Thus when they broke away from the black star in "All Our Yesterdays" they snapped back in time while any other ship wouldn't have.

Starfleet realizing that the Enterprise is the only ship capable of time travel, it's the Enterprise that gets the assignment to travel back in "Assignment: Earth." Then in the 2270s the nacelles get shipped off to Starfleet research to try and figure out what made them so special.

That's exactly what I postulated in Department of Temporal Investigations: Forgotten History (except that you mean "Tomorrow is Yesterday"). David McIntee, author of the TNG time-travel novel Indistinguishable from Magic, had pointed out that if any ship could do the slingshot effect, then random people would be changing history all the time, so it had to be extremely rare to be able to do it successfully. I posited that Spock's restart equation altered the Enterprise's warp reactor in a way that let it generate chronitons and successfully achieve a time warp.

And yes, I did have the original warp engines removed for study by Starfleet during the pre-TMP refit; indeed, I made it the underlying reason for the wholesale refit.


I like this better than resorting to the "Starfleet classified it" God-of-the-gaps that is so often resorted to. Apart from the Guardian, Time travel was limited to the Enterprise because of some special conditions.

In my novel, it's both. It's logical that Starfleet would want to keep knowledge of time travel limited, given the dangers it poses. So the reason the Enterprise crew kept getting the time-travel missions -- not just "Assignment: Earth" but the Guardian research project in "Yesteryear" -- was to keep the knowledge limited to the crew that was already in the loop.


The only problem with this theory is the Bird-of -Prey in The Voyage Home.

I also explained in the book how Spock worked out the equations that would let him convert other ships' engines in the same way.


Yeah. But many of us only care about our personal definition.

Which is literally the exact opposite of the literal meaning of "canon" -- the official doctrine of the church/authority as opposed to individual heterodoxies. So you're just proving Vger23's point that people don't understand the meaning of the word.


The slingshot effect is mentioned again in TNG's "Time Squared" Riker mentions it as a possible explanation for the appearance of the shuttle pod from the future

But that's a reference to "Tomorrow is Yesterday," which is where the term "slingshot effect" comes from. Again, "Assignment: Earth" called it "the lightspeed breakaway factor" instead. (Assuming they were even talking about that and not the "Naked Time" phenomenon.)
 
Because by the only meaningful definition of canon, it is canon.

"This makes sense/doesn't make sense to me" has nothing to do with whether something is part of canon - not a single goddamned thing.

Winner!
 
Because by the only meaningful definition of canon, it is canon.

"This makes sense/doesn't make sense to me" has nothing to do with whether something is part of canon - not a single goddamned thing.
Chill, canon is malleable. Stuff can be added or struck from it. TAS used to be entirely non-canon, now portions of it are. Assignment: Earth, as a backdoor pilot, would be a good candidate to be removed from canon if it already wasn't so isolated an episode.
 
Chill, canon is malleable. Stuff can be added or struck from it.

Not by fans.

What has CBS ever "struck from canon?"

Waiting...

That's right - CBS has no reason ever to remove one of their products from the precious "canon" that fans fuss over so.

Roddenberry supposedly once said that some elements of Star Trek 5 "might not be canon," but notably the folks who actually owned the property never paid that any mind at all.

The show is canon - period, full stop.
 
Chill, canon is malleable.

It isn't. Not even a little bit. Only CBS has the authority to make something "non-canon", and they have no reason to do it as it damages the viability of selling that product over and over and over. "The Alternative Factor" is canon. "Spock's Brain" is canon. "Assignment: Earth" is canon.

All of TAS is canon. The only time it was an issue was when it was owned by multiple companies (Filmation, Norway Studios and Paramount).

While not TOS, even "Threshold" is canon.

Stuff can be added or struck from it.

James R. Kirk and James T. Kirk are both canon.
 
Canon is whatever people want it to be.

Was this a backdoor pilot for another show? Yup, it sure was.

But, that other show had it's pilot on Star Trek so I don't know (or care) if it is "canon" it is still part of TOS history. It was a fun episode and I wish it had caught on and became a show. I would've watched that show.

Are books canon? Because in the novel "The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh" there is a great scene where Gary Seven gets captured, given a truth serum and tortured. So he wouldn't divulge any secrets he starts blabbing in Klingon. Good book, worth a read.
 
I've been slowly rewatching TOS and I have to say I don't understand how Assignment: Earth can be considered canon.

It's a backdoor pilot for an unrelated concept.

It treats time travel casually (Enterprise was given as assignment to study history!?).

It is never referenced again (outside of the same method of time travel being used in STIV).

Frankly it's the most logically incongruent episode in the entire franchise in terms of canon.

TOS referred to its own history when pertinent, but it did not need to be constantly mentioned or having some direct impact on future stories. Canon is not strictly determined by the number of times an event or character is mentioned unless it is necessary to refer to it. The Gary Seven incident did not need to brought up again, as it had no bearing on any other event (time travel-related or not) like most missions.

For example, in season two's "By Any Other Name," Kirk and Rojan mention--and the Enterprise eventually revisits the galactic barrier introduced in "Where No Man Has Gone Before":

KIRK: What happened to your ship?
ROJAN: There is an energy barrier at the rim of your galaxy.
KIRK: Yes, I know. We've been there.

In the same episode, Kirk and Spock have this exchange:

KIRK: On Eminiar Seven, you were able to trick the guard by a Vulcan mind probe.
SPOCK: Yes, I recall, Captain. I led him to believe we had escaped.

Obviously, they were talking about Spock's actions in the episode "A Taste of Armageddon" .

In season three's "That Which Survives," Sulu starts to form a theory:

SULU: You remember on Janus Six, the silicon creatures
MCCOY: But our instruments recorded that. They were life forms. They registered as life forms.

Another episode reference, this time, "The Devil in the Dark," but ask yourself, if any other episodes did not mention / use something from an earlier story, would that somehow reduce or eliminate the canonicity of said earlier story?

If the answer is no, then the same applies to "Assignment: Earth".
 
Chill, canon is malleable. Stuff can be added or struck from it. TAS used to be entirely non-canon, now portions of it are.

TAS was never really non-canon. Roddenberry and his continuity enforcer Richard Arnold issued a memo claiming it was no longer canon, but at that point they had no actual authority over the shows themselves, since Roddenberry had been shunted into a mostly ceremonial consultant role due to his deteriorating mental state. The actual shows freely made references to TAS (e.g. "Unification" mentioning "Yesteryear" backstory and DS9 mentioning the Klothos) during the period when the "ban" on TAS was supposedly in effect. The only things actually affected by the "ban," aside from public opinion, were the tie-in books and comics during the time when Arnold was in charge of their approval.


Assignment: Earth, as a backdoor pilot, would be a good candidate to be removed from canon if it already wasn't so isolated an episode.

I'd say the opposite -- since it's so isolated, it's less likely to conflict with anything and thus there's less reason to worry about its canon status. Things that get "removed" from canon tend to be things that are directly contradicted by other canon -- "The Alternative Factor"'s bizarre interpretation of antimatter, The Final Frontier's portrayal of speedy travel to the galactic center, "Threshold"'s version of transwarp. "Assignment: Earth" is such a self-contained piece that it's unlikely to come into conflict with anything else, so there's no reason to single it out.

Again -- continuity is not the standard here. In TOS, in pre-'80s television in general, lack of continuity was desirable. Episodes weren't supposed to depend on each other, since there was no guarantee that a given viewer would be able to see all of them, or to see them in any consistent order. So the priority was to make every episode work independently. In a very real sense, there was no "canon" and no desire to create one. There was just a series of individual, unconnected stories about the same characters and premise. A show like Mission: Impossible would sometimes have the team expose their faces on national or global TV in one episode, yet still be able to function as anonymous undercover agents in the next. Or they would bring down the head of the nation's top crime syndicate in one episode and yet organized crime would be as strong as ever in the next, and the next, and the next. Plus there were far more nameless Eastern European countries and generic People's Republics than could possibly fit in Eastern Europe. No continuity, no consequences -- each episode was a universe unto itself. (Some shows continued this practice into more recent times -- for instance, there's no way that all the murders in a single season of Law & Order could've possibly been investigated by the same two detectives and tried by the same two DAs, let alone within the course of a single year.)



Canon is whatever people want it to be.

As I said, that's the exact opposite of what the word literally means.


Are books canon?

By definition, no. "Canon" is a shorthand nickname for the work of a series's original creators or owners, a word that's used specifically to differentiate that original work from outside creators' derivative works such as licensed tie-ins or fanfiction. If there were no outside knockoffs, there'd be no need for the word "canon" at all; the word only exists to discuss the difference between the two.

As a rule, the only tie-in books or comics that manage to work as canon are those that are written, plotted, or directly supervised by the original creators themselves -- for instance, the Buffy comics made without Joss Whedon's involvement during the run of the series were not canonical, but the comics directly supervised by Whedon after the show ended were canonical. Because canon is not about the medium, it's about who creates the work. No two artists will interpret the same subject in the same way, so the only way you can really get a reasonably consistent creation (for no long-running series can be perfectly consistent) is if the same person is in charge of all of it.
 
Canon is whatever people want it to be.

Well...no.

For example, take Marvel's Star Wars comic which was published from 1977 to 1986; in that run, a wealth of new characters (Beilert Valance, Domina Tagge, et al.), events (flashback to Obi-Wan's Old Republic days, etc.),and tech (e.g. a massive, Death Star-like super-weapon called The Tarkin) were created, but Lucas did not authorize it as canonical material, which is why the comic--with the exception of the three film adaptations--would never see any of its inventions appear in the original trilogy. So, "whatever people want it to be" makes no sense when their personal preferences are never added to the main production.

But, that other show had it's pilot on Star Trek so I don't know (or care) if it is "canon" it is still part of TOS history. It was a fun episode and I wish it had caught on and became a show. I would've watched that show..

It should say something that after 51 years there's hardly been any serious debate about "Assignment: Earth" being part of TOS canon. Its not that fans did not know better. Just the opposite--they understood that what was on the show was part of what built it.
 
I will be interesting to see this debate in the future when Star Trek becomes public domain.

If I'm still alive by then.

But when that happens the only canon that will matter is head canon.
 
I think that once a concept becomes public domain, then different creators will do all sorts of different, independent things with it and won't make any attempt to be consistent with each other, just like all the various film and TV iterations of Sherlock Holmes in the past decade have made no attempt at mutual consistency. But in Holmes, the term "canon" refers to the original 56 stories and 4 novels by Conan Doyle, and everything after that is extracanonical. The word can still be used to refer to what it's meant to refer to -- the original creator's work as distinct from derivative or imitative works by others. Which is a simple, straightforward classification and not important in any other way, just as it should be.

Although in the case of Star Trek, it wouldn't all go into public domain at the same time, so you'd have a situation where concepts and plots unique to TOS would be public domain while the later series were still under CBS's copyright, and so on. Any independent versions that got made would necessarily have to avoid concepts from the later series.

Of course, TOS won't enter public domain until the 2060s, around the time that warp drive and First Contact are supposed to happen, so I very much doubt that any Trek being produced by then will still be set in the Prime timeline we know today. It'll probably have been rebooted multiple times by then anyway. (Which I think is long overdue. It's pretty silly that we're still pretending the Eugenics Wars happened in the 1990s and cryogenic sleeper ships were phased out in favor of faster interplanetary drives last year.)


We could have much more meaningful conversations about fiction if the word "canon" had never been introduced. All it does is distract people with arguments over what the label means and what it applies to. The label doesn't matter. It's just a shorthand for talking about the relationship between stories. Talking about what things are is more important than talking about what to call them.
 
I will be interesting to see this debate in the future when Star Trek becomes public domain.

If I'm still alive by then.

But when that happens the only canon that will matter is head canon.
Well, 2061 is 42 years away...
 
The trouble is, individual works will fall into the P.D. starting with the first season, but when Star Trek as a whole becomes P.D. is another issue. The Doyle estate tried to keep Sherlock Holmes under copyright even after the original stories fell into the public domain, but a judge said no. (link).


As I understand it, the issue was that the earlier Holmes stories had fallen into P.D. but not some of the later ones, since the stories were written over a period of decades so they didn't all fall out of copyright at the same time. The Doyle Estate took the position that as long as some Holmes stores remained in copyright, then the character himself was not P.D.

The courts disagreed, ruling that only those specific stories remained in copyright.

As for Star Trek "canon," I've never understood of the point of declaring individual movies or episodes "non-canon." What practical difference would that make? Would "Assignment: Earth" be taken out of circulation or removed from boxed sets from now on? Would it have to bear a warning label identifying it as "non-canon"? Would all future shows, movies, books, and comics be banned from ever mentioning it again? Would it be excised from all future Star Trek encyclopedia and companions?

It's a Star Trek episode. We all saw it. It's part of Star Trek history, like every other episode.

That's the reality. "Canon" is just a meaningless abstraction.
 
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